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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
v. 23 Cr. 118 (AT)
MILES GUO,
Defendant. Trial
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New York, N.Y.
June 3, 2024
9:05 a.m.
Before:
HON. ANALISA TORRES,
District Judge
-and a Jury-
APPEARANCES
DAMIAN WILLIAMS
United States Attorney for the
Southern District of New York
BY: MICAH F. FERGENSON
RYAN B. FINKEL
JUSTIN HORTON
JULIANA N. MURRAY
Assistant United States Attorneys
SABRINA P. SHROFF
Attorney for Defendant
PRYOR CASHMAN LLP
Attorneys for Defendant
BY: SIDHARDHA KAMARAJU
MATTHEW BARKAN
CLARE P. TILTON
ALSTON & BIRD LLP
Attorneys for Defendant
BY: E. SCOTT SCHIRICK
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ALSO PRESENT:
Isabel Loftus, Paralegal Specialist, USAO
Michael Gartland, Paralegal Specialist, USAO
Geoffrey Mearns, Paralegal Specialist, USAO
Robert Stout, Special Agent, FBI
Ruben Montilla, Defense Paralegal
Tuo Huang, Interpreter (Mandarin)
Shi Feng, Interpreter (Mandarin)
Yu Mark Tang, Interpreter (Mandarin)
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(Trial resumed; jury not present)
THE COURT: Good morning.
ALL COUNSEL: Good morning, your Honor.
THE COURT: Would you make your appearances, please.
MR. FERGENSON: Good morning, your Honor. Micah
Fergenson, Juliana Murray, Ryan Finkel, and Justin Horton for
the government. And we're joined at counsel table by
paralegals Isabel Loftus and Geoffrey Mearns.
MR. SCHIRICK: Good morning, your Honor. Scott
Schirick on behalf of Mr. Guo. I'm joined at counsel's table
by Sabrina Shroff, Mr. Kamaraju, and Mr. Barkan, together with
Mr. Guo.
THE COURT: Please be seated.
Is there anything the parties would like to raise
before we start witness testimony?
MR. FERGENSON: Your Honor, just a point I had raised
last week——I can't remember which day——on the binders of the
large summary chart for the jury, and the Court. Would it be
all right with your Honor if, before 9:30, we placed the
binders underneath the chairs and then just, you know, once
it's in evidence, we'll ask them to pick it up from under their
chairs?
THE COURT: That's fine.
MR. FERGENSON: Thank you, your Honor.
MR. SCHIRICK: Nothing from the defense, your Honor.
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Thanks.
THE COURT: All righty. So at about 9:29, if you'll
have the witness on the stand.
MR. FERGENSON: Yes, your Honor.
THE COURT: Thank you.
(Recess)
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(Jury present)
THE COURT: Please be seated.
Good morning, jurors.
THE JURORS: Good morning.
THE COURT: Welcome back.
The prosecution may call its next witness.
MR. FERGENSON: Thank you, your Honor. The government
calls Shamel Medrano.
THE WITNESS: Good morning, your Honor.
THE LAW CLERK: Mr. Medrano, please raise your right
hand.
(Witness sworn)
THE COURT: Please state your name and spell it.
THE WITNESS: Shamel Medrano. S-H-A-M-E-L,
M-E-D-R-A-N-O.
THE COURT: You may inquire.
MR. FERGENSON: Thank you, your Honor.
SHAMEL MEDRANO,
called as a witness by the Government,
having been duly sworn, testified as follows:
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. FERGENSON:
Q. Good morning, Mr. Medrano.
A. Good morning.
Q. Where do you work?
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A. I work at the U.S. Attorney's Office in the Southern
District of New York.
Q. What's your position at the U.S. Attorney's Office?
A. I'm an investigative analyst.
Q. What are some of your duties and responsibilities as an
investigative analyst at the U.S. Attorney's Office?
A. Some of my duties, I assist with social media analysis——
THE LAW CLERK: Mr. Medrano, if you could pull the
microphone closer to you and speak up.
THE WITNESS: Of course, yes.
THE LAW CLERK: Thank you.
A. So my duties include assisting with social media analysis,
I analyze phones, also business records. It varies on the
nature of the case.
Q. How long have you been an investigative analyst at the U.S.
Attorney's Office?
A. Four and a half to five years, approximately.
Q. What did you do before that?
A. I was an intelligence analyst at the Bronx District
Attorney's Office.
Q. How long were you an intelligence analyst at the Bronx
District Attorney's Office?
A. Two and a half to three years.
Q. Now, Mr. Medrano, besides your testimony today and
preparation for this testimony, what involvement did you have
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in this case?
A. I assisted in preserving some open-source social media and
open-source web pages.
Q. How did you preserve those things from the internet?
A. Depending on the type of material, so I used a snipping
tool; I also used a video downloader; and I used a sort of
single-file HTML preservation tool.
Q. And Mr. Medrano, I'd just ask——the acoustics can be a
little difficult to hear——if you can, just pull the mic as
close as you can.
A. Yes.
Q. And speak as clearly into it as you can.
A. Sorry. I'll scoot up.
Q. Thank you.
Now, Mr. Medrano, did you decide what to preserve from
the internet?
A. No.
Q. Did you make any investigative-step decisions in this case?
A. No.
Q. Who made those decisions?
A. The prosecutors.
Q. And who asked you to preserve those things from the
internet?
A. The prosecutors.
Q. Am I one of those prosecutors?
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A. Yes.
Q. Okay. Now, Mr. Medrano, in advance of your testimony were
you asked to review certain government exhibits and help
summarize the information in them?
A. Yes.
Q. Did you help prepare or review for accuracy some summary
charts?
A. Yes.
Q. Are the charts all based on voluminous records?
A. Yes.
Q. What type or types of exhibits are the charts based on?
A. They're social media exhibits. There's also web pages that
come from web addresses, and there's some videos too.
Q. And who decided which exhibits you reviewed and what
information to include on the charts?
A. The prosecutors.
Q. Were you provided the opportunity to make revisions to the
charts to make sure they were accurate?
A. Yes.
Q. Did you make revisions to the charts?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. And after you revised the charts, are they now all
accurate?
A. Yes.
Q. And again, just to be clear, did you review all the
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evidence gathered in this case or just the charts and exhibits
those charts are based on?
A. Just the charts and the exhibits the charts are based off
of.
Q. And who selected the exhibits that went into the chart?
A. The prosecutors.
Q. And who selected the information from those exhibits that
went into the chart?
A. The prosecutors.
Q. Did you have any say in that at all?
A. No.
Q. Fair to say you just confirmed the charts are accurate?
A. Correct.
MR. SCHIRICK: Objection.
MR. FERGENSON: Your Honor, at this time——
THE COURT: One moment.
The objection is overruled.
MR. FERGENSON: Your Honor, at this time the
government will offer a few stipulations between the parties
that are marked as government exhibits.
It offers Government Exhibit Stip 8, S-T-I-P 8, and it
offers Government Exhibit Stip 11, and Stip 12.
THE COURT: They are admitted.
(Government's Exhibits Stip 8, Stip 11, Stip 12
received in evidence)
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MR. FERGENSON: All right. Now, Ms. Loftus, if we
could pull up a few of the stipulations, just briefly. We'll
start with Government Exhibit Stip 2, which is in evidence.
And we can publish it if it's not already.
I'll just read the intro. It's hereby stipulated and
agreed by the parties that:
In the below chart, columns A, B, and C accurately
list the following information:
The government exhibits listed in column A are
authentic copies of web pages that were preserved from the
internet. If a web page contained a video that was also
preserved, the associated video is designated with a "-V" in
the Government Exhibit name. For example, GX C20 is a
preservation of a web page, and GX C20-V is a preservation of
the video that was on that web page.
Column B in the chart lists the web address (or "url")
of the web page that was preserved.
And column C lists the date on which the web page was
preserved.
Ms. Loftus, I'll just ask if you could just scroll for
a few pages, just to give some sense.
And maybe we can scroll all the way to the bottom.
BY MR. FERGENSON:
Q. Mr. Medrano, are you able to see how many pages this
stipulation is?
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A. Yes.
Q. How many pages?
A. 25.
MR. FERGENSON: Okay. Let's go to the next
stipulation. Ms. Loftus, if we could please publish Government
Exhibit Stip 8.
All right. And this is a stipulation regarding
documents, and that's now in evidence. And I'll——if you could
scroll down, Ms. Loftus.
I'll just read the intro.
It is hereby stipulated and agreed between the parties
that:
The exhibits listed below in column B were lawfully
obtained by the government and are authentic records of the
entity listed in column A, that were made at or near the time
by, or from information transmitted by, a person with knowledge
of the matters set forth in the records; such records were kept
in the course of a regularly conducted activity; and it was the
regular practice of that entity to make the records.
And Ms. Loftus, if we could scroll down. And that's
good. Just up slightly.
BY MR. FERGENSON:
Q. And at the very top there, Mr. Medrano, do you see one of
them is Gettr USA, Inc.?
A. Yes.
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MR. FERGENSON: Okay. Let's go to the next
stipulation, Ms. Loftus. Let's please show Government Exhibit
Stip 9.
All right. And this is a stipulation regarding
translations of GX C exhibits.
It's agreed between the parties that in the below
chart, the exhibits listed under column A contain audio or text
in a foreign language.
In the below chart, the exhibits listed under column B
are true and accurate translations of the audio or text
contained in the exhibits listed under column A.
BY MR. FERGENSON:
Q. And Mr. Medrano, do you see that the exhibits in column B
just add a "-T" to the exhibits listed in A?
A. Correct.
MR. FERGENSON: All right. Let's go to the next one.
Let's go to Stip 11, please, Ms. Loftus.
All right. Now I won't read this one, but this is
another stipulation. If we could scroll up slightly,
Ms. Loftus. Sorry.
This is another stipulation regarding translations,
this time of GX W and GX GTR exhibits.
And Ms. Loftus, if we could please go now to Stip 12.
Okay. Now this says it is hereby——this is a
stipulation regarding video clips.
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It is hereby stipulated and agreed between the parties
that in the below chart, columns A, B, C, and D accurately list
the following information:
And I'll actually ask, if you could——I'll read the
intro, but if you could scroll down so we can see the chart.
Perfect.
In the below chart——I'm sorry. I read that one.
The government exhibits listed in column A are
authentic copies of full-length videos that were preserved from
the internet.
The government exhibits listed in column B are
authentic copies of portions (video clips) of the government
exhibits listed in column A.
Column C lists the time stamps of the video clips
listed in column B.
And the government exhibits listed in column D contain
accurate translations of the audio from the video clips listed
in column B.
And if we could scroll for just a couple pages. Thank
you, Ms. Loftus.
And we can take that down.
Now, your Honor, at this time——those stipulations were
for authentication. At this time I'm going to move for the
admission of a lengthy list of exhibits. If I may approach, I
have a printed copy for the Court to follow along.
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THE COURT: Okay --
MR. FERGENSON: Okay. The government now moves to
admit the following exhibits from the GX W series. These are
all W exhibits:
5, 5-V, 49, 68, 115, 115-V, 116; and 122, 123, 123-V,
124, 160, 162, 164, 164-T, 165, 167, 171, 175, 177, 180, 183,
184. And this actually is——185 through 187, 189 and 190, 193,
198 through 201, 207, and then 1020, 1020-V, 1020-T, 1021,
1021-V, 1021-T, 1024, 1024-TX, 1024-V1.
All right. Now I have several exhibits that are C
exhibits, GX C exhibits.
6-TX, 6-V1, 6-V2, and also just 6; 20, 20-TX, 20-V1,
20-V2; 40, 40-V; 43, 43-TX, 43-V1, 40 through V8; so 43-V1
through 43-V8; 55, 55-V; 56, 56-V, 63-TX, 63-V1 through V7; and
also just GX C63; GX C105, 110, 110-TX, 110-V1, 121, and 121-V,
122, 122-V, 123, 123-V.
With apologies for going out of order, I had actually
skipped over one, which is GX C120 and 120-V.
Next is 131, 143 and 143-T, 145 and 145-T, 146 and
146-TX, and 146-V1 and V2; 148, 148-TX, 148-V1 through V5; 151.
THE COURT: Are you seeking to admit 148-V?
MR. FERGENSON: I'm actually not, your Honor.
THE COURT: Okay. All right.
MR. FERGENSON: I think that was included mistakenly.
151, 160, 160-V; 161, and 161-TX, 161-V1 through V5;
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205 and 205-V; 210 and 210-V; 211 and 211-V; 212 and 212-V;
220, 220-TX, 220-V1; 221 and 221-V; 252, 252-V; 253, 253-V;
255, 255-V; 257, 257-V; 260 through 265 and then 265-V, 266
through 270, and then 270-V, 271, 272, 272-V, 273, 274, 275,
275-V, 276, 280, 280-V, 281, 281-V; 300, 300-V, 301, 301-V;
302, 302-TX, 302-V1 through V16; so 302-V1 through 302-V16; 310
through 314; 320 321, 321-TX, 321-V1 through V6; 322, 322-TX,
322-V1 through V9; 351, 351-V; 370, 370-V; 371, 371-V1; 373,
374, 402, 404 through 406, and 406-V; 410, 411, 411-V, 412
through 419; 422, 423, 423-V; 424 through 426; 428, 429, 429-V;
430 through 432, 432-V; 433 through 436; 438 through 440; 442,
442-V; 443 through 445, and 445-V; 446.
459, 459-T, 459-V1 through V3; 461, 461-V; 462, 463,
463-V, 464, 480, 481, 483, 484, 484-A, 491, 491-V, 500, 500-TX,
500-V1, 501, 501-TX, 501-V1; 502, 502-TX, 502-V1 through V24;
503, 503-TX, 503-V1 through V4; 504, 504-TX, 504-V1 through
V13; 505, 505-V, 505-T; 506, 506-TX, 506-V1 through V6; 510,
510-TX, 510-V1 through V11; 511, 511-A, 511-TX, 511-V1 through
V7.
That ends the C series. Now I have just a few more
exhibits. These are the GTR series:
GX GTR1, 5, 8, 9, 10 through 17, 23, 26, 27, 27-T, and
28. And that's all.
MR. SCHIRICK: No objection.
THE COURT: So they are all admitted.
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(Government's Exhibits W5, W5-V, W49, W68, W115,
W115-V, W116; W122, W123, W123-V, W124, W160, W162, W164,
W164-T, W165, W167, W171, W175, W177, W180, W183, W184; W185
through W187, W189, W190, W193, W198 through W201, W207, W1020,
W1020-V, W1020-T, W1021, W1021-V, W1021-T, W1024, W1024-TX,
W1024-V1 received in evidence)
(Government's Exhibits C6-TX, C6-V1, C6-V , C6; C20,
C20-TX, C20-V1, C20-V2; C40, C40-V; C43, C43-TX, C43-V1, C40
through C40-V8; C43-V1 through C43-V8; C55, C55-V; C56, C56-V,
C63-TX, C63-V1 through C63-V7, C63; C105, C110, C110-TX,
C110-V1, C121, C121-V, C122, C122-V, C123, C123-V received in
evidence)
(Government's Exhibits C120 and C120-V received in
evidence)
(Government's Exhibits C131, C143, C143-T, C145,
C145-T, C146, C146-TX, C146-V1, C146-V2; C148, C148-TX, C148-V1
through C148-V5; C151 received in evidence)
(Government's Exhibits C160, C160-V; C161, C161-TX,
C161-V1 through C161-V5; C205, C205-V; C210, C210-V; C211,
C211-V; C212, C212-V; C220, C220-TX, C220-V1; C221, C221-V;
C252, C252-V; C253, C253-V; C255, C255-V; C257, C257-V; C260
through C265, C265-V, C266 through C270, C270-V, C271, C272,
C272-V, C273, C274, C275, C275-V, C276, C280, C280-V, C281,
C281-V; C300, C300-V, C301, C301-V; C302, C302-TX, C302-V1
through C302-V16; C302-V1 through C302-V16; C310 through C314;
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C320, C321, C321-TX, C321-V1 through C321-V6; C322, C322-TX,
C322-V1 through C322-V9; C351, C351-V; C370, C370-V; C371,
C371-V1; C373, C374, C402, C404 through C406, C406-V; C410,
C411, C411-V, C412 through C419; C422, C423, C423-V; C424
through C426; C428, C429, C429-V; C430 through C432, C432-V;
C433 through C436; C438 through C440; C442, C442-V; C443
through C445, C445-V; C446 received in evidence)
(Government's Exhibits C459, C459-T, C459-V1 through
C459-V3; C461, C461-V; C462, C463, C463-V, C464, C480, C481,
C483, C484, C484-A, C491, C491-V, C500, C500-TX, C500-V1, C501,
C501-TX, C501-V1; C502, C502-TX, C502-V1 through C502-V24;
C503, C503-TX, C503-V1 through C503-V4; C504, C504-TX, C504-V1
through C504-V13; C505, C505-V, C505-T; C506, C506-TX, C506-V1
through C506-V6; C510, C510-TX, C510-V1 through C510-V11; C511,
C511-A, C511-TX, C511-V1 through C511-V7 received in evidence)
(Government's Exhibits GTR1, GTR5, GTR8, GTR9, GTR10
through GTR17, GTR23, GTR26, GTR27, GTR27-T, GTR28 received in
evidence)
MR. FERGENSON: Thank you, your Honor.
BY MR. FERGENSON:
Q. Okay. Mr. Medrano, you said you prepared some summary
charts, correct?
A. Correct.
MR. FERGENSON: Ms. Loftus, to start, if we could show
Mr. Medrano GX Z11, please.
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Q. All right. Now, Mr. Medrano, is this one of the charts?
A. Yes.
Q. Did you review all the exhibits this chart is based on?
A. Yes.
Q. Is this chart accurate?
A. Yes.
MR. FERGENSON: The government offers Government
Exhibit Z11.
MR. SCHIRICK: No objection.
THE COURT: It is admitted.
(Government's Exhibit Z11 received in evidence)
MR. FERGENSON: Let's go to another one.
Ms. Loftus, could we go to Z9, please.
And just for the witness.
BY MR. FERGENSON:
Q. All right. Mr. Medrano, what's this exhibit?
A. This is GX——the exhibit on the summary chart or——
Q. Is this another——this is another summary chart you
reviewed?
A. Correct, yes.
Q. Did you review all the exhibits this chart is based on?
A. Yes.
Q. Is this chart accurate?
A. Yes.
MR. FERGENSON: The government offers Z9.
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MR. SCHIRICK: No objection.
THE COURT: Admitted.
(Government's Exhibit Z9 received in evidence)
MR. FERGENSON: And if we could publish, please,
Ms. Loftus.
And your Honor, may we also publish the hard-copy
versions of this exhibit?
THE COURT: Yes.
MR. FERGENSON: Ladies and gentlemen, if you look
beneath your chairs, there's a binder that has Government
Exhibit Z9.
All right. Ms. Loftus, if we could zoom on the top
with the——perfect. Thank you.
BY MR. FERGENSON:
Q. All right. Mr. Medrano, generally speaking, what is in
this chart?
A. So I'll start from the left to the right. So this chart is
indicating as the Date, the Source, so the date indicating the
date that the source that you find on the exhibit was sort of
posted or published. So in this scenario it was April 18,
2020, for that one. And you have the Source, which is where
it's coming from, so where, what web address it's being found
from.
Then it says Selected Content, which is what is being
displayed from the source. So if you were going——if you would
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go to that web address, some of what you would find there.
And then the GX, which is the Government Exhibit that
applies to that specific source.
Q. And just generally speaking, what sorts of exhibits are
included in this chart?
A. There's videos, there's web page preservations, there's
videos, there's translations of the web pages and the videos,
and there's also some search warrant material that was provided
I believe from Gettr.
Q. Now in the Selected Content column, did you select this
content, Mr. Medrano?
A. No.
Q. Did you have any choice in what was included or not
included in that column?
A. No.
Q. Who did?
A. The prosecutors.
Q. And in that column, the Selected Content, Mr. Medrano, is
it the full set of text from the Government Exhibit or just a
selection of it?
A. It's a selection of it.
THE COURT: And by selection, do you mean excerpt?
MR. FERGENSON: Yes. Oh, Mr. Medrano?
THE WITNESS: Correct, yes.
THE COURT: I wanted to understand what you were
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asking when you used the word.
MR. FERGENSON: Oh, that's correct, your Honor.
THE COURT: Go ahead.
MR. FERGENSON: Thank you.
BY MR. FERGENSON:
Q. All right. So Mr. Medrano, let's just look at this first
example. What was the date?
A. April 18, 2020.
Q. And where was that date taken from for the Selected
Content?
A. In the Selected Content, you'll see a screen, sort of a
snip of what was the Selected Content, and there in the title
you see it says Miles Guo with a date, says 20200418, and
that's where the date was taken from.
Q. And what domain was this taken from?
A. Gnews.org.
Q. And Mr. Medrano, do you have any independent knowledge
about what gnews.org is?
A. No.
Q. What was the——
MR. FERGENSON: And then, Ms. Loftus, if we could
scroll down slightly.
Q. Now, Mr. Medrano, you said this, you know——focusing on the
Selected Content, you described the image as a snip. What's
the snip?
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A. Sort of a capture of the full web page but just a small
sort of——a small excerpt of it.
Q. And the text underneath that, where is that text taken
from?
A. It's taken from the source.
Q. From the web page?
A. From the web page, correct.
THE COURT: By snip, do you mean a still photo?
THE WITNESS: Correct, like a snipping tool of the
photo of the web.
THE COURT: Thank you.
Q. And Mr. Medrano, I would just ask you to read——could you
just read that first paragraph.
A. Yes. "Until now, no one can understand the value and
significance of G-TV, G-News, and the future. I can tell
everyone to watch this place while walking. G-TV and G-News
want all comrades to earn in the future. With money, earning
the future, earning safety, earning wisdom, earning the dignity
of the whole person, earning a career, and a platform, how can
you get what you want without money?"
MR. FERGENSON: And if we could scroll up slightly,
Ms. Loftus.
Q. This is GX W184?
A. Correct.
MR. FERGENSON: And Ms. Loftus, do we have W184?
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All right. And if we could publish that, please.
Q. All right. And Mr. Medrano, what are we looking at here?
A. It's an HTML preservation of the entire web page.
Q. And who preserved this?
A. I preserved this.
MR. FERGENSON: And Ms. Loftus, if we could just
scroll down slightly.
You can just scroll, keep scrolling.
Q. All right. Now, Mr. Medrano, the entire this text was not
put in the chart, correct?
A. Correct.
MR. FERGENSON: All right. Let's go back to the top,
Ms. Loftus.
Oh, I'm sorry. Just the top of that exhibit.
Q. And when you described a snip, Mr. Medrano, what portion of
this was snipped?
A. The top portion, the portion where you see sort of the name
of the web page, where it says Miles Guo 20200418, and right
underneath it where you see the Miles with sort of the V icon.
Q. And the V icon, what's your understanding of what that
means?
A. Based on——I believe meant to be verified.
MR. FERGENSON: All right. Let's go back to Z9,
Ms. Loftus, please.
Q. All right. And Mr. Medrano, are the entries in this chart,
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you know, generally, in chronological order?
A. Yes.
Q. How many pages is this chart?
A. 209 pages.
MR. FERGENSON: And Ms. Loftus, if we could scroll
down, or jump to page 206.
Q. All right. What's the date of this entry, Mr. Medrano?
A. March 5, 2023.
MR. FERGENSON: And if we go back to page 1,
Ms. Loftus.
Q. What's the first entry?
A. April 18, 2020.
Q. So we go from April 2020 to March 2023?
A. Correct.
MR. FERGENSON: All right. And Ms. Loftus, if we
could scroll down just slightly on this page to the bottom
right corner.
Keep going.
Q. All right. Now, Mr. Medrano, do you see there's a number 1
on the bottom right?
A. Correct.
Q. What is that?
A. The page number.
Q. Okay. All right.
MR. FERGENSON: So Ms. Loftus, I'd like to jump ahead
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a little bit, and let's please go to page 61.
And ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you're welcome
to follow along in hard copy.
And if we could——okay. Could we scroll up slightly.
All right. I want to go to GX C302, Ms. Loftus.
Okay. Great. Sorry. It's page 62.
BY MR. FERGENSON:
Q. All right. Mr. Medrano, what's the date of this entry in
the chart?
A. February 28, 2021.
Q. And where was this posted?
A. On gtv.org.
Q. And the image in the Selected Content, where is that image
taken from?
A. From the video.
Q. Now focusing you on the right-hand column, Mr. Medrano,
what is the——that lists the GXs, right?
A. Yes.
Q. Just the one that says 302, what is Government Exhibit 302?
A. That's the sort of the web page. So if you were to go to
that web address, that is the page that that web address would
take you to.
Q. And then the one beneath that, the -V, what is the -V?
A. The -V is the video that was sort of found on that web
address. That's the entirety of that video.
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Q. The full video?
A. The video, the full video, correct.
Q. And then skipping down one, the V1 through V16, what are
those exhibits?
A. Those are excerpts of the original video, so of 302.
Q. These are video clips?
A. Correct.
Q. Okay. And then right above that, the 302-TX, what's that
exhibit?
A. That's the translation of the video.
Q. Of the video clips?
A. Correct.
Q. All right. Now, Mr. Medrano, did some of the videos you
reviewed have subtitles in them?
A. Yes.
Q. Does this video have subtitles?
A. No.
Q. What's your understanding of what language these videos are
in?
A. I believe they're in Mandarin.
Q. And how long were some of these videos?
A. Hours. Two to three hours, even more.
Q. Okay. Now I'm not going to go through all the excerpts
here.
MR. FERGENSON: So Ms. Loftus, if we could just scroll
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to page 67.
And I want to go to V15.
Okay. And now, Ms. Loftus, if we could, I'll ask you
to please pull up Government Exhibit V15 and play that, please.
And could you turn the volume up, please.
(Video played)
MR. FERGENSON: Okay. Now, Ms. Loftus, I'll ask you
to just——you can put it on mute and we can play it again.
BY MR. FERGENSON:
Q. And Mr. Medrano, using your binder, could I ask you to
please read the text underneath V15.
A. Yes.
THE COURT: Okay what page is that?
MR. FERGENSON: This is page 67, your Honor.
THE COURT: Go ahead.
A. "Let me tell you this again. There will never be a chance
like the one that we have today, where you can be involved in
GTV and G Coin. You have my words. There won't be an
opportunity like this ever again.
"Brother Seven has worked all his life. I know what
politics is, I know what finance is, and I know what earning
big money is. You won't even understand. You don't even——you
don't understand even when I explain it to you. Brothers and
sisters, you have to trust Brother Seven. None of you will pay
for this if you lost money. I'll be the one who pays for it.
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For the amount of money that you have invested in, to be honest
with you, any one of my houses is worth hundreds of millions of
dollars, for the ones that belong to our family, right?
"The stocks that our family controls now are worth
hundreds of millions or billions of dollars in Japan, Taiwan,
and European countries, and the funds I invest in are worth
tens of billions of dollars, right? My best friends own their
countries. What is Jack Ma to me? He's nothing, nothing to
me. My best friend's underground is worth lots of money. Who
are you? Right? I tell you what, from what Brother Seven has
seen, you will never have this opportunity. Don't allow
poverty drag down your IQ. Your EQ can be lowered, but not
your IQ. You'll never have the opportunities like G Coin and
GTV."
Q. All right. Now, Mr. Medrano, this was February 2021,
right?
A. Correct.
Q. So I want to go back towards the beginning of the chart and
earlier in time.
MR. FERGENSON: Ms. Loftus, if we could go to C26.
I'm sorry. Page 2.
Q. And if we could, Mr. Medrano, what's the date of this entry
in the chart?
A. April 20, 2020.
Q. And where was this download from?
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A. From YouTube.
Q. And looking at the text underneath the Selected Content,
what's the first line?
A. "When you see this video, it is not a public video."
Q. Now, and this was downloaded from YouTube?
A. Correct.
MR. FERGENSON: All right. Now, Ms. Loftus, if we
could pull up C26-V, please. And before we do that.
Q. Mr. Medrano, did this video have subtitles in it?
A. Yes.
Q. Could you read the subtitle on the page that's in the snip.
A. Yes. The first is Wang Yanping, who everyone knows.
MR. FERGENSON: And let's play C26-V, please,
Ms. Loftus.
(Video played)
(Continued on next page)
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BY MR. FERGENSON:
Q. Mr. Medrano, you said this video is April 2020, right?
A. Correct.
Q. And the one we watched first was February 2021?
A. Correct.
Q. The one we're watching now is about ten months earlier; is
that right?
A. That is right.
Q. In the February 2021, what was said about risk?
A. That there was no risk.
Q. And in this video what did the speaker just say about risk?
A. I'm sorry.
Q. That's okay, Mr. Medrano. Withdrawn.
Ms. Loftus, we can keep playing the video.
(Media played)
MR. FERGENSON: Pause please.
Q. Mr. Medrano, do you have any independent knowledge of who
Max is?
A. No.
Q. We can keep playing, Ms. Loftus.
(Medica played)
Q. All right. Ms. Loftus, we can pause this.
Mr. Medrano, what does it say on the screen here?
A. This video is sent to you one by one.
Q. And remind us where was this preserved from?
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A. YouTube.
Q. And if we could go back to the chart, please, Ms. Loftus.
And if we could scroll down slightly.
And, Mr. Medrano, could you just read the text under
933?
A. Yes. Private placement means that we are friends. I can
introduce this project to you one on one, on one on several of
you for investment. I can't do a lot of marketing in the media
or large public media.
Q. And, Ms. Loftus, if we can scroll down slightly.
Mr. Medrano, could you just read the next excerpt,
please?
A. Originally we plan to set a threshold of 10,000 USD per
head, but we had no choice but to adjust it, adjust it to.
There were so many people because the number of people is
limited. The investing amount is not limited. We have
adjusted the threshold to 100,000 USD from 10,000 USD.
But because of supporters of Rule of Law Federation
has a priority, we made an exception for some people by
allowing them to invest in GTV even if they invested less than
100,000 USD, but the right to decide and control is on us.
Q. If you could read that next paragraph.
A. But this time we have rejected lots of its institutional
investors which request to invest millions, tens of millions
and hundreds of millions USD. We mainly allowed our friends to
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invest this time; therefore, the quota is limited, and the
entry threshold is unlimited from 100,000 USD to indefinite.
Then I would also like our investor friends and fellow fighters
to know that this company is registered in the US. GTV is a
new company where the IPO time starts within 24 hours of you
seeing the video.
Q. This was April 20, 2020 right, Mr. Medrano?
A. Correct.
Q. Ms. Loftus, can we go to page six, please.
Focusing you on the entry on the screen, Mr. Medrano,
what was the date of this entry on the chart?
A. June 2, 2020.
Q. About a month and a half later?
A. Correct.
Q. Where was this downloaded from?
A. From YouTube.
Q. Ms. Loftus, I'll ask you to play V1. And after a few
seconds, if you want to place it on mute.
And, Mr. Medrano, I would then ask you to read from
your binder the excerpt under V1, please.
A. Yes.
(Media played)
A. We had an initial evaluation of 200 million for GTV, and
the private placement required a minimum investment of 20
million. The private placement exceeded the highest
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expectations and raised 350 million. This is up to now this,
this figure is about 360 million, let's say 350 million. 350
million does not include the 117 million from VOG. If 117 plus
350 million, it's more than 480 million, which is almost,
almost, almost, 500 million, almost 500 million. But the
figure we have now is 350 million received which is just for
the contracts with GTV.
This turned out to be a conservative estimate and 17.5
times valuation. Given the tremendous demand for GTV shares
and the good capital position of GTV going forward, my lawyers
and financial experts mutually agree that a two billion
valuation is probably too low, and that the actual value of the
company is probably closer to 10 billion, given the tremendous
demand for GTV shares.
My fellow fighters, do you get the picture? Your
stock has now gone from 20 million in the past to the actual
amount of cash now 17.5 times. Excluding the 117 million of
Sara, which is that of the VOG. If you add that, it should be
close to 30 folds, that's between 27 to 30 folds. And, at the
same time, this company has gone from 2 billion in the past to
10 billion.
Q. Ms. Loftus, if we can go back to the chart, and if we could
go to the next page, page seven, and no need to play the video.
But, Mr. Medrano, could you please read the text under
V4. Actually, you don't need to read all of it.
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Ms. Loftus, you can take that down.
About in the middle of the paragraph starting At the
same time, could you read from there on, please?
A. Yes. At the same time, as our fellow fighters know, our G
Dollar and G Coin, this presale of the whole system will also
start immediately, and will be fully online and start running
in three and a half months from now.
Then the stable coin issued by our Himalayan federal
reserve, the HIFED, and the G Coin jointly used by our online,
our G Fashion and G News, GTV will be fully online. Within
three and a half months, our G News may enter the private
placement stage. G News, G Fashion, G Mall, G Pay, G Club and
GTV will be fully operational within three and a half to four
months.
Q. Ms. Loftus, I'll ask you to scroll down to the next page,
please.
And, Mr. Medrano, could you please read the text under
V7?
A. Yes. In this GTV investment, I had a separate conversation
with each investor. This is a serious and solemn commitment
and responsibility of Wengui Guo to you. To be responsible for
this investment forever, this is a legally valid commitment, an
attitude.
Q. This was June 2, 2020, right?
A. Correct.
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Q. Ms. Loftus, if we could scroll to the next page, please,
page nine.
Mr. Medrano, focusing you on what's on the screen,
what's the entry of -- what's the date of this entry?
A. June 17, 2020.
Q. And where was this preserved from?
A. GTV.org.
Q. Do you have any independent knowledge of what GTV.org is?
A. No.
Q. And the photo in the selected content column, where did
that photo come from or that image?
A. It's from the video.
Q. Ms. Loftus, if we could play C2020-V1. Just play the whole
thing.
(Media played)
Q. Ms. Loftus, if you want to play that again on mute.
And, Mr. Medrano, I'd ask you to read the text under
V1 from your binder, please.
A. Yes. There are people who have issued shares today. Some
have already started trading the shares. How much is it? Just
now, two or three ago, a fellow fighter sold 10,000 shares,
10,000 shares, and a deal has been concluded for 18 dollars a
share, 18 dollars per share. But our investment committee was
not happy and wanted to buy them all back for 20 dollars.
Q. Mr. Medrano, if the shares began at 1 dollar and now
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they're 20 dollars, how many times have they increased?
A. Twenty times.
MR. SCHIRICK: Objection.
THE COURT: Overruled. I assume that he can do
arithmetic.
MR. SCHIRICK: Foundation, your Honor.
Q. Let's jump ahead a little bit back to the chart. We can go
to page 30, please, if we could scroll down.
Mr. Medrano, focusing you on the entry on your screen,
what's the date of this entry?
A. August 1, 2020.
Q. Where was this preserved from?
A. GTV.org.
Q. Did this video have subtitles?
A. It did.
Q. Now, Mr. Medrano, the text beneath this video in the
selected content column, where did that text come from?
A. From the video.
Q. The subtitles?
A. Correct.
Q. Now, before we play the video, could you read the text
that's to the right of the date please in the snip?
A. Yes. Once the CCP's apps are all band, it will be
impossible for GTV and G News not to make money.
Q. Could you please read the subtitle in the still image?
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A. As for G Fashion, we will start right away at 100 billion
US dollars.
Q. And, Ms. Loftus, if we could start playing Government
Exhibit C121-V, please. I will ask you to jump to about 1:24
seconds in after we get going. That's good, Ms. Loftus.
(Media played)
Q. We can pause there. Ms. Loftus, if we can go back to the
chart, please. We're going to scroll now to page 32, please.
Mr. Medrano, the date of the last video was August 1,
2020, right?
A. Correct.
Q. What's the date of the entry on the screen?
A. August 2, 2020.
Q. Where was this downloaded from?
A. From YouTube.
Q. Are there subtitles on this video?
A. No.
Q. Ms. Loftus, if we could scroll down to page 33, please. If
we could play C43-V5. And we can put it on mute.
And, Mr. Medrano, I'd ask you from your binder please
to read the text under C43-V5.
(Media played)
A. Why is the communist party so afraid of us all of a sudden?
Isn't it just watching us get rich? Isn't it just watching us
make big money? He is scared. He doesn't want us to make
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money. He doesn't let our fellow fighters make so much money.
How much is GTV?
Of course, this is the law of the United States, with
a market value of 2 billion US dollars. Now that it needs
market transaction, it may reach 20 billion US dollars.
G Fashion was 100 billion when it went public, right? This is
the law of the United States. If you want to make a little
false something in the United States, then you are looking for
death, so the communist party is afraid. G Coin and G Dollar
changing mankind.
Q. Ms. Loftus, if we can go back to the chart, please. If we
could please go to page 61. I'm sorry 62.
Mr. Medrano, the first clip we played was from this
video, right?
A. Correct.
Q. Remind us the date?
A. February 28, 2021.
Q. So we're about ten months from that first video in April
2020, correct?
A. Yes.
Q. Let's look at a few more clips from this video.
Ms. Loftus, if you could scroll down to page 64,
please, up slightly, Ms. Loftus. I want to ask you, we don't
need to play the video again, if you could scroll up again.
Mr. Medrano, I'm going to ask you to read the text
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under V7, and please read the start of the second paragraph and
go through, It's all on Brother Seven if we lose money?
A. Yes. Then our G News, our GTV, our G Fashion, and most
importantly all of human mankind have been heading toward a
generation of cryptocurrency, virtual currency, which you all
have seen it. It all happened in such a short time. The
future value of those is promising with their resource. It's
predicted value and our scientific efficient and low cost
operation.
First of all, I dear to say it here today that we will
not lose a penny. Tell me, who does business and dear to share
that you will not lose a penny? I can. It's all on Brother
Seven if we lose money.
Q. If we can scroll down slightly and focus you on V8. And,
Ms. Loftus, why don't we play V8.
And shortly after that, Mr. Medrano, I'll ask you to
start reading a portion of it. You can go ahead and play it
with some sound, Ms. Loftus.
(Media played)
Q. Ms. Loftus why don't we play it again on mute.
And, Mr. Medrano, from your binder, I'll ask you to
please read the text, and you can start with the sentence that
starts, There is not a chance that we will lose any money.
THE COURT: If you would appoint us to where exactly
you are.
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MR. FERGENSON: Yes, your Honor. We're on page 64 I
believe. Ms. Loftus, you want to pull up the chart quickly.
It's the fourth line down, your Honor, of the second paragraph
under V8. Thank you, Ms. Loftus.
Q. Mr. Medrano, you can go ahead and read that through the end
of the paragraph.
A. Yes. There's not a chance that we will lose any money.
How can there be? For our fellow fighters, if you lost any
money, Brother Seven will pay for it. Brother Seven will be on
it. I can even write this down for you. If you lose any
money, it be on Brother Seven, and the profit will be yours.
It's just a matter of how much you'll be making, and when you
will be making those monies. It's a matter of time and profit
amount.
Q. Ms. Loftus, if we can go back to the chart, and if we can
scroll down slightly to V10.
Mr. Medrano, could I ask you to please, under V10,
could I just ask you to read the first sentence there?
A. Yes. Just with the investment of GTV, we manage to raise
more than 400 million so far, and we haven't spent a penny of
those.
Q. Ms. Loftus, let's look at another video. Let's go to page
76 in the chart, please.
Mr. Medrano, what's the date of this entry on the
chart?
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A. March 30, 2021.
Q. That's about a month later?
A. Correct.
Q. Where was this preserve from?
A. GTV.org.
Q. Are there subtitles in this video?
A. No.
Q. Ms. Loftus, I ask you to scroll down to page 78 to 79.
Mr. Medrano, I want to focus you on V4.
And, Ms. Loftus, if we could please play Government
Exhibit C161-V4.
(Media played)
Q. Ms. Loftus, you can pause that.
And, Mr. Medrano, if I could ask you to, underneath V4
in your binder, if you could please read the two paragraphs at
the top of page 79. The first sentence should start, Currently
it's scheduled as a yesterday. It's probably going to be 60
billion of investment.
MR. SCHIRICK: Objection.
THE COURT: Sustained. Are you asking him to read
from "currently?"
MR. FERGENSON: Correct, your Honor.
THE COURT: Go ahead.
A. Currently it's scheduled as a yesterday. We know that it's
probably going to be 60 billion of investment, 60 billion of
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assessment. I thought it was too high, so I just want to make
it 20 billion. For the 40 billion, we'll make room for the
second fundraising. If listed for 60 billion, there's still a
long way to go. I think 20 billion is enough comrades. Don't
be too greedy. Okay?
You shall leave some benefits for other comrades in
arms, because they will have room for rapid growth when they
join in. If you have used up all 60 billion of it, all its
value in the next three to five years, the value over the years
will be used up, and these shares will be taken by you, which
is not fair. You have already gotten rich already.
Q. Ms. Loftus, if we can go back to the chart, please. If we
could go to page 98, please.
Mr. Medrano, the entry on page 98 here, what's the
date of that entry?
A. It's May 30, 2021.
Q. And where was this posted?
A. On G News.org.
Q. In the snip, was this a video or an article?
A. This is an article.
Q. And in the snip of the article, could you please read the
headline?
A. Yes. Highlights of Mr. Miles Guo live broadcast on May 30,
2021.
Q. I'll just ask you to please read the first three sentences
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of the selected content?
A. Yes. The new GTV company will issue shares of 60 billion
US dollars. The original fellow fighters investors will get 10
shares per US dollars of investment. Don't be too greedy.
Q. It says get 10 shares per 1 US dollar, Mr. Medrano?
A. Correct.
Q. Ms. Loftus, if we could now jump ahead again. Let's go to
page 115, please. If we could scroll down to the other video.
Mr. Medrano, what's the date of this entry in the
chart?
A. August 11, 2021.
Q. And where was it posted?
A. On YouTube.
Q. I'm going to ask Ms. Loftus if you could please play V1.
We'll go ahead and play it.
And, Mr. Medrano, I'll ask you to read the text after
that.
(Media played)
Q. Let's go back to page 115 on the chart.
Mr. Medrano, I'll ask you to read the text on this
page, please.
A. Yes. Louis Vuitton, Louis Vuitton is only worth 16.4
billion. You see, all these brands are around 20 billion,
nothing too big, including Hermes, which is only 13 or 14
billion, nothing too big, nearly any exceeded -- Cartier is
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worth 15 billion. Remember that the total value of the top ten
brands is about 20 billion, generally 13 billion to 20 billion.
Why, why, why, why, are they so uniform?
And then look at Chanel, it's 13.7 billion, which is
close to 13 billion, right? These market values are all
between 13 billion and 20 billion, the source of these top ten
brands. If you look at Hermes, it's only 11.9 billion. It's
not as high. It's even less than Chanel. Did you notice it?
Did you notice it. Rolex is worth 7.8 billion, and which is
about 8 billion rounding up, right? It's only worth 8 billion,
which is only 1/5 or 1/6 of our GTV in terms of market value.
Q. Mr. Medrano, another arithmetic question. If 8 billion
dollars is 1/5 of the market value of GTV, what would that make
the market value of GTV?
A. 40 billion.
Q. We're talking about GTV market value.
Ms. Loftus, I want to go back in the chart and back in
time. If we could please go to page five.
Mr. Medrano, what's the date of this entry in the
chart?
A. May 25, 2020.
Q. Where was this posted?
A. On G News.org.
Q. And in the snip, what does it say to the left of the V
icon?
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A. Miles.
Q. And, Mr. Medrano, is the text beneath that the whole text
from the source or just an excerpt?
A. Just an excerpt.
Q. Ms. Loftus, if we could scroll down slightly. Keep going,
please.
So, Mr. Medrano, I'm going to ask you to read the
bottom paragraph here, the one that starts, Another one I want.
A. Yes. Another one I want to insert one in the middle. The
Himalayan farm we are building now. I tell you that the
Himalayan farm will never raise funds, will not raise funds,
will not reach out to comrades in arms, will only bring
convenience to comrades and bring benefits.
You stretch your hand, and this will always be
remembered. This is the embassy of all of us in the world.
It's now under construction. Warriors from all over the world
are welcome to participate actively. We are writing a charter.
Q. Ms. Loftus, can we go now to the bottom of page 28.
Mr. Medrano, what's the date of this entry in the
chart?
A. July 22, 2020.
Q. Was this a video or an article?
A. This is a video.
Q. Where was it posted?
A. on G News.org.
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Q. Mr. Medrano, I don't know if we covered this before, do you
see underneath the image there's something in brackets?
A. Yes.
Q. What is that?
A. That's sort of the timestamp of where this text on the
bottom begins on the video.
Q. Ms. Loftus, before we play the video, Mr. Medrano, could
you read the text in the image to the right of the date?
A. Yes, Contact local Himalayan farms.
Q. And does this video have subtitles?
A. Yes.
Q. Could you please read the subtitle in the image.
A. Yes. Thus a new way has been formed for the money.
Q. Ms. Loftus, if we could please play Government Exhibit
C40-V.
(Media played)
Q. Ms. Loftus, if you want to jump ahead to 256.
(Media played)
Q. You can pause this. Ms. Loftus, if we can go back to the
chart, if we could scroll down slightly.
Mr. Medrano, could I ask you to read a few sentences
starting with, Thus a new way in the third line there?
A. Yes. Thus a new way has been formed for the money, that is
a cooperation method. You will sign a loan contract with the
local farm with a 6 percent interest rate and equity given to
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you with the option of three to five years. Then you can ask
for equity, interest or cash at any time. This method of
cooperation is both legal and compliant. This will be
implemented by each farm. GTV will not deal with any person
individually. Instead, we will only sign contracts with local
farms. It will be loans in this way. You will decide if you
want equity or money. It's up to you.
Q. Ms. Loftus, if we could now go to page 53.
What's the date of this entry, Mr. Medrano?
A. September 20, 2020.
Q. Where was it posted?
A. on G News.org.
Q. Are there subtitles in this?
A. There are.
Q. Could you first read in the image the text to the right of
the September 20, 2020 date?
A. Yes. The standards of the establishment of Himalayan farm.
Q. Could you please read the subtitle in the still?
A. Yes. You can put your money here for a long time, even
forever.
Q. Ms. Loftus, if we could now play Government Exhibit C205-V.
(Media played)
Q. Pause there. If we could just go back a couple of seconds,
Ms. Loftus.
Mr. Medrano, do you have any personal knowledge of who
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brother Changdao is?
A. No.
Q. If we can keep playing, Ms. Loftus.
(Media played)
Q. You can stop it there. Let's go back to the chart,
Ms. Loftus. If we could go now to page 70, please. If we
could scroll down.
Mr. Medrano, what's the date of this entry in the
chart?
A. March 11, 2021.
Q. And where was this posted?
A. On YouTube.
Q. Does this video have subtitles?
A. It does not.
Q. Ms. Loftus, if we could first play Government Exhibit
C510-V1, please.
(Media played)
Q. You can stop it there, Ms. Loftus. Can you go back to the
chart.
Mr. Medrano, I'll ask you to read the first two
sentences of the first paragraph there, please.
A. Yes. Another thing is that I would like to make one more
announcement to you. Comrades in arms must remember that from
now on if anyone sees anything about payment, you can't pay a
penny if it did not have official video, voice statement and
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public account of Himalayan alliance committee and the farms
committee.
Q. Thank you, Ms. Medrano.
Ms. Loftus, if we can scroll again to page 73 to 74.
Mr. Medrano, the text here that starts, That's all I have to
say, could you please read that paragraph?
A. Yes. That's all I have to say in terms of that. As for
the account transfer, the account number of GTV's loaning
program and the first payment account will be sent to the
alliance committee and farms later, which are absolutely
confidential. We have at least hundreds of accounts ready this
time.
If an account is closed, we will have another one open
to back it up. We will fight this guerilla. The account is
sent to each farm on a one to one basis, and the alliance
committee on a one to one basis. After sending it to each
comrade in arms, all the comrades in arms must remember that
only the chairmen of the alliance committee, the members, the
farm leaders, the second in command, and the Iron Blooded Group
of the alliance committee have the right to send this account.
For those of you that have sent out the account you,
you are definitely someone that they are familiar with. If you
have not confirmed the person who sent you the account number,
the account number wouldn't count. After confirming the
account number, it cannot be leaked out. You can remit money
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to this account. After the money is remitted, we will notify
you once the money is received, and the transaction will be
over. In the future, it will be transferred to you as the
stock of the initial building of the company, and the stock
that will give you for initial building of the company will
also be similarly match to in 1 to 20 and 1 to 10.
Q. Mr. Medrano, there's a reference to the iron blooded group,
do you know what that is?
A. No.
Q. Now, Ms. Loftus, I want to go back in time again to earlier
in the chart to page 13, please. If we can scroll down.
Mr. Medrano, on page 13 here, what's the date of the
chart entry shown on the screen?
A. June 20, 2020.
Q. And where was this posted?
A. On GTV.org.
Q. Did this video have subtitles?
A. Yes.
Q. I ask you to first read the caption to the right of the
date in the image?
A. The Himalaya independent financial ecosystem.
Q. Can you read the subtitle in the image, please?
A. Yes. You are entitled to receive 10,000.
Q. Ms. Loftus, if we could please play Government Exhibit
C123-V.
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(Media played)
Q. We can stop there. If we could go back to the chart,
Ms. Loftus, please. If we could scroll slightly.
Mr. Medrano, I'm going to ask you to read the first
excerpted text on the top of page 14, please?
A. Yes. You are entitled to receive 10,000 shares of
G Fashion stock worth 1 US dollar per share. Why? Because
when you purchase the G/Club membership, G/Club could serve as
an investment company which will take 10K USD that I will lend
you without any interest to buy the G Fashion stock worth 1 US
dollar per share for you.
Q. And this is June 2020 right, Mr. Medrano?
A. Correct.
Q. Now what's the date of the entry here, Mr. Medrano?
A. July 22, 2020.
Q. Where was this posted?
A. On G News.org.
Q. What's the caption on this video say?
A. Please don't send me more checks.
Q. And could you read the subtitle in the image, please?
A. You become a shareholder of G/Club immediately.
Q. Ms. Loftus, I'll ask you to please play Government Exhibit
C212-V. We'll play about two and a half minutes.
(Media played)
Q. You can stop there. Ms. Loftus, if we could jump ahead
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we'll play to about 5:27 seconds in. We'll play about 20
seconds or so.
(Media played)
Q. You can pause there. We can actually keep playing.
(Media played)
Q. We can pause there. If we could go back to the chart,
Ms. Loftus, please. If we could scroll down slightly, please.
Mr. Medrano, could you please read the text under
6:13?
A. Yes. Please keep this in mind about the money that you
either go and buy G/Club membership or sign a loan contract
with a Himalaya farm and join GTV.
Q. If we could go back to the video, please, Ms. Loftus, and
we'll go about 7:50 in, and we'll play maybe 45 seconds or so.
(Media played)
Q. We can pause there. Ms. Loftus, if we could go back to the
chart, please, to page 30. If you can scroll up please.
(Media played)
Q. Mr. Medrano, could I ask you to please read the text under
8:12?
A. Yes. So my brother in arms, I don't need money. Game is
over if you see -- asking for you for money. No hope of taking
down the CCP. What I want is the love from my brother in arms.
Let brother in arms be connected and united. I hope all our
investors would soon become billionaires and another ten
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thousand more investors come and they become billionaires too.
And if a million more come, we will have one million more
billionaires. Isn't our new federal state of China so great?
Q. Ms. Loftus, I want to go to page 57, please.
Mr. Medrano, what's the date of the entry on page 57?
A. October 13, 2020.
Q. Where was this posted?
A. On GTV.org.
Q. Focusing on the still image, what is it say at the top
center of the still image?
A. G/Clubs.
Q. Mr. Medrano, I'll ask you to just read, please, the first
paragraph under V1?
A. Yes. Dear brothers and sisters, today is October 13. One
week today this is a live broadcast about the launch of G/Club
and G Fashion and some statements that have been before the
launch.
Q. We can scroll down to V3.
Mr. Medrano, can you read just the first sentence
under V3?
A. Now what am I talking about in front of a bunch of lawyers?
Q. And if we could go now to the bottom of page 58 and focus
on V5. Ms. Loftus, I'll ask you to please play V5.
(Media played)
Q. Ms. Loftus, why don't we restart this, and put it on mute.
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Mr. Medrano, I'm going to ask you to read the text
under V5. We're not going to read every single line, but I'll
let you know when to stop.
A. Yes. G/Club members will also be invited to the G summit
annual conference, have early access to selected G music songs
and videos, and have access to the functions of delayed live
broadcast on social media platforms in the future. These are
the member benefits at the preliminary launch, and there will
be other benefits and services included in the future, which
will be published on G/Clubs websites.
To put it bluntly, this is all non-sense. I'll be
straightforward with you. This is what we need to have to
legally avoid Me Too, but don't think that we are being mingy
here. This is no other way. We'd have to have that, but I
don't think you'd by G/Club for something like the free music.
If you were, why would you buy it, right? My suggestion would
be, don't buy it. But this procedure laws measures that
benefit. Me Too have been there.
To prevent economic Me Too, all of which are published
on the websites. Under the revised launch plan for G/Clubs,
however, members will not thereby have opportunity to subscribe
for or purchase any shares to be issued in the future, will not
receive GTV stock, and will not receive loans to purchase
memberships. This is serious business brothers and sisters.
Even if you have brought G/Club, it absolutely will not come
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with the stocks. It does not mean that you can buy stocks of
G Fashion and GTV, and it does not mean that you will be able
to receive loans in the future. No. No. No.
Q. We can pause there. All right. Now, this No. No. No
video, can you remind us the date of this video, Mr. Medrano?
A. Yes, October 13, 2020.
Q. Ms. Loftus, let's go back to the chart, and let's go to
page 61, please. I have this wrong. It's 62.
Now, Mr. Medrano, this entry is February 28, 2021,
right?
A. Correct.
Q. That's about four months after the No. No. No, no stocks
video we just watched?
A. Yes.
Q. Let's please scroll to page 66, Ms. Loftus.
Mr. Medrano, the text here, this is from the same
February 2021 video, right?
A. Yes.
Q. I want to focus you on the text underneath V12, and
specifically on the bottom paragraph. And I'll ask you to read
about the middle of that paragraph, the sentence starting, In
terms of G Fashion?
A. In terms of G Fashion, all of us understand it. As long as
you purchase the membership, you'll certainly be the original
shareholders. Regardless the amount that you purchase, you
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will definitely be the original shareholders for G Fashion
fellow fighters.
Q. We can pause there. Let's go to page 101.
What's the date of this entry on the chart,
Mr. Medrano?
A. June 23, 2021.
Q. So this is about four months after the video we just
watched?
A. Yes.
Q. Or just read from. And it's about eight months after the
October 2020 no, no, no video?
A. Yes.
Q. Let's go to, on page 101, Ms. Loftus, why don't we play V2.
Ms. Loftus, we can put it on mute after a few seconds.
And then, Mr. Medrano, I'm going to ask you to read
the first two paragraph under V2?
A. Yes.
Q. I'm sorry.
MR. FERGENSON: Just for the record, this is
Government Exhibit C504-V2.
(Media played)
A. Okay. Today I saw that someone just sent a message, and
Brother Seven didn't understand. Let me take a look at the
message that the fellow fighter sent. It's sent by William
Wang. Let me read it.
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Good news brother Seven just announced. I didn't make
an announcement. All the loans and investment that fellow
fighters invested in the past no longer need to share interest
with the farms. The issue share for each fellow fighter who
have made an investment are in 1 to 10.
Second, all G/Club cardholders are entitled to 1 to 10
of the new GTV stocks for the amount of the card. How come
it's in this color? It looks so awkward. All G/Club
cardholders are entitled to 1 to 10 of the new GTV stock for
the amount of the card. Third, all of those who bought the
Apple store reward coin G1 at the beginning are also entitled
to 1 to 10 shares of the new GTV in accordance with the amount
bought.
William Wang got the core information because the
woman he slept in a bed with is named Tang Ping, a member of
the Iron Blood Group. So you see, this Tang Ping is leaking
out information, right? Just kidding. This is public
information. And what is said is right. I'm going to give you
a little bit more information today, that is. The money that
was invested in GTV from day one, whether it was G1 or G Dollar
or all of the original Phoenix farms or VOG or the loaning
program or the membership purchase, as long as you've invested
a penny out of your pocket, you invested a dollar out of your
pocket. You'll own 10 shares of the new GTV stock. It's that
good. It's that awesome. All the things that were said in the
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past will be cashed out for you this time.
Q. Ms. Loftus, we can go back to the chart. We can scroll
down to page 103.
Mr. Medrano, this text here, this is from that same
June 2021 video, right?
A. Yes.
Q. That's about eight months after the no, no, no stocks
video?
A. Yes.
Q. Could you please read the text under V6?
A. Yes. Why does the G/Club give these shares to the fellow
fighters? Because I want them to be rich. I want them to
never lower their heads for money. Never kneel in front of
others.
Q. Let's go down to page four, the last paragraph under V7, if
you could please read that, Mr. Medrano.
A. Yes. G/Club, a card of global pass with unlimited future
hopes to buy G Fashion at a 50 percent discount. You also have
stocks in 1:10, not 1:1. I have never seen such a good deal
happen in my life until today.
Q. Ms. Loftus, let's go down to page 115 in the chart. And
what's the date of this video?
A. July 30, 2021.
Q. Where was it posted?
A. GTV.org.
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Q. This is about a month after the one we were just watching?
A. Correct.
Q. Are there subtitles in it?
A. There are not.
Q. Can we please play Government Exhibit C506-V5, and we're
going to go to pages 114 to 115. You can play it with some
sound first.
(Media played)
Q. Ms. Loftus, why don't we restart and put it on mute.
THE COURT: It's now 11:30, so it's time for us to
have our half hour break. Members of the jury, remember that
you're not permitted to discuss the case amongst yourselves or
with anyone else. Don't permit anyone to discuss the case in
your presence. And, remember, you cannot do any form of
research about the case. You cannot listen to any form of news
media or any opinions concerning anything having to do with
this case.
Sir, you may step down. Don't discuss your testimony.
(Jury not present)
THE COURT: You may step out.
(Witness temporarily excused)
THE COURT: Please be seated. Mr. Fergenson, how long
do you think we have with this witness?
MR. FERGENSON: I'm always hesitant to make too much
of an overpromise. I think I'm about halfway through. But to
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be conservative, it's possible the direct could take us through
the day.
THE COURT: Okay. All righty. See you at noon.
(Recess)
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AFTERNOON SESSION
12:02 p.m.
(Jury not present)
THE COURT: Unfortunately, lunch just arrived for the
jurors, and I'm going to have to give them until 12:30, so
we'll start at 12:30. You may step down.
(Recess)
THE COURT: Please have the jurors brought in.
(Jury present)
THE COURT: Please be seated.
Members of the jury, I apologize for the lateness of
your lunch.
Remember, you're still under oath.
THE WITNESS: Yes, your Honor.
THE COURT: You may continue.
MR. FERGENSON: Thank you, your Honor.
Ms. Loftus, if we could go back to Government Exhibit
Z9. If we can go to page 113.
BY MR. FERGENSON:
Q. All right. Now, Mr. Medrano, before the lunch break we
were looking at this chart entry. Do you recall that?
A. Yes.
MR. FERGENSON: Ms. Loftus, if we could scroll down to
pages 114-115.
Q. And we had most recently played the V5 video. Do you
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recall that?
A. Yes.
MR. FERGENSON: All right. Now, Ms. Loftus, we can
play that.
Q. And Mr. Medrano, I'm going to ask you to read the paragraph
that starts, "I had a meeting with."
A. Yes.
Q. Please.
(Video played on mute)
A. "I had a meeting with Brother Long Island, Kai, and Ru Shui
this afternoon before I got on the car. It's just a simple
thing. For those fellow fighters who would like to buy G-Club
memberships, if you have H Dollar account, then you can buy
G-Club membership directly with your H Dollar account. If
there are issues with formalities on the transaction between H
Dollar and G-Club, please see the public live broadcast of the
Alliance Committee that Brother Long Island and Old Squad Lead
hosted, which will inform you all the details. Reasonably and
legally, anyone can purchase the membership of G Club with H
Dollar when you have H Dollar and H Dollar account. There are
still many people asking questions, including Brother Long
Island and Kai told me that, some of the fellow fighters asked,
'Will I still get a free stock offer when I buy a G Club
membership?' 100 percent. Because I said that I have to
promise that anyone who buys G Club membership before
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September 17 must be allotted shares, which is exactly the
same. Because we said that anyone can choose whether to use
your money to buy G Club before September 17, G Club and the
stock shares. You'll get both."
Q. And Mr. Medrano, we saw this video of July 30, 2021. Do
you recall that?
A. Yes.
Q. So that's about nine to ten months after the October 2020
"No, No, No" stock video?
A. Correct.
MR. FERGENSON: All right. Ms. Loftus, go back to the
chart, please.
And just scroll down to the next page, please.
Q. All right. Now this was a video we looked at earlier,
right, Mr. Medrano?
A. Yes.
Q. What's the date of this entry?
A. August 11, 2021.
Q. Where was it posted?
A. On YouTube.
MR. FERGENSON: All right. Let's go to page 116,
Ms. Loftus, please.
All right. And I want to go to V3.
Q. And Mr. Medrano, we won't need to play the video, but in
the interest of time, I'll just ask you to read the text under
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V3, please.
A. Yes. "Fellow fighters, you will be one of them. If there
is an opportunity like this in front you, and if there is such
a platform for you, ask yourself that will you have a second
option? What did you pay? All the members of these societies,
all the credit card owners you see, and all the brands behind
them, how many lives, how many deaths, how many adventures,
have made these few people.
"And today you should compare the G Club and the
Whistleblowing Revolution to those risks, to those
requirements, to the risks you take, to your likelihood of
success, and it's once in a life event in human history. It
has the lowest risk but with the greatest chance of success,
the greatest probability of success."
MR. FERGENSON: And Ms. Loftus, if we could scroll
down to page 117.
Q. Mr. Medrano, could you please read the two paragraphs under
V5.
A. Yes. "Brothers and sisters, please ask yourself, how much
money did you have to take out? Joining a platform like this
with the amount that you have taken out, show me, and I'll
follow you, how much risk are you taking? Can you compare the
risks you have taken with all that of these past society
organizations and various institutions you have participated in
in human history?
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"Tell me, what is the percentage difference between
these investments and all the money you will get and your
ratio? More importantly, what is the gap between your risk and
success rate? You don't have any loss, and you don't have any
financial risk as of now."
MR. FERGENSON: Ms. Loftus, let's scroll down to V6,
please.
Q. Mr. Medrano, can you please read the paragraph under V6.
A. Yes. "Do you think Brother Seven is fooling you? So I
said, I'll repeat again, all fellow fighters, no matter how
much money you have donated, please make sure that you have
kept a record of your donation. If you don't have one, please
reach out to the Rule of Law Foundation and Rule of Law
Society, where they will base on the amount of your donation
and the number of your donation . . . like we have more than
100 fellow fighters who donate for us in long-term and in large
sum. For fellow fighters like them, they are not just fellow
fighters anymore. In my heart, they are the highest member of
our G Club. That's why if you have bought the G Club
membership card, you would have stocks now. Why would you lose
money? What risks are you taking? Is there such a good
opportunity in the world? Will there be such a good
opportunity again? Will you have such a good opportunity
again?"
MR. FERGENSON: Let's scroll down to 118.
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Q. And if you could read the text under V7, please.
A. Yes. "If you have bought a membership card, please contact
each farm. Each farm can collect the card. This is one. The
second one is that we have launched G Dollar. If you open a G
Dollar account on KYC, you can buy membership card right away
with G Dollar. This is the second. Third, some fellow
fighters that are recognized by the farm can buy cards for
other fellow fighters."
Q. All right. Mr. Medrano, I want to go back in time again
back in the chart.
MR. FERGENSON: And Ms. Loftus, if we can go all the
way back to page 13, please.
And if we could scroll down.
Q. All right. So here on page 13, Mr. Medrano, this is a
video we looked at earlier, correct?
A. Correct.
Q. And remind us the date.
A. June 20, 2020.
Q. And the first video we looked at was April 2020, right, so
this is about two months later?
A. Correct.
MR. FERGENSON: Okay. Now, Ms. Loftus, let's play the
video Government Exhibit C123-V, and let's start it at about
2:10 into the video.
(Video played)
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MR. FERGENSON: Let's go back to the chart, please,
Ms. Loftus, page 14.
BY MR. FERGENSON:
Q. Mr. Medrano, can you read the second excerpt in the chart,
please.
A. Yes. "The G Dollar is pegged to the US dollar; the G Coin
is pegged to gold, the gold standard and gold price."
MR. FERGENSON: Ms. Loftus, let's go to page 53 now.
Q. And Mr. Medrano, this is another video we looked at earlier
as well, right?
A. Yes.
Q. And on page 53, the entry on this chart, remind us the
date?
A. September 20, 2020.
MR. FERGENSON: And Ms. Loftus, let's play Government
Exhibit C205-V. And we're going to jump to about 3:15. We'll
play a little less than three minutes of it.
(Video played)
MR. FERGENSON: Ms. Loftus, let's——
Q. So this was September 2020, right, Mr. Medrano?
A. Correct.
MR. FERGENSON: Ms. Loftus, let's go back to the chart
and go to pages 83 to 84.
You can scroll up a little bit. Okay.
Q. All right. Now, Mr. Medrano, we're going to look at
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entries for Government Exhibit C252 through 253.
MR. FERGENSON: And if we could scroll down. And 255,
257.
Q. What's the date associated with these four?
A. April 26, 2021.
Q. And what's the source?
A. YouTube.
MR. FERGENSON: And if we could scroll up to the top
one.
Q. What appears to be pictured in the top one there?
A. Gold bars.
Q. And what does it say in the image beneath that?
A. "The Himalaya Dollar is a stablecoin."
Q. Do you have any independent knowledge of what the Himalaya
Dollar is?
A. No.
MR. FERGENSON: Okay. Let's scroll down again,
Ms. Loftus.
And why don't we play Government Exhibit C257-V.
(Video played)
MR. FERGENSON: All right. Ms. Loftus, let's go back
to the chart, please.
BY MR. FERGENSON:
Q. And Mr. Medrano, that was April 2021, right?
A. Correct.
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MR. FERGENSON: Let's go back to the chart, and let's
go to page 120, please.
Q. And what's the date of this entry, Mr. Medrano?
A. September 29, 2021.
MR. SCHIRICK: Which video are you referring to?
MR. FERGENSON: The entry on the screen. This is
Government Exhibit C405.
Q. Mr. Medrano, what's the date?
A. September 29, 2021.
Q. And where was this posted?
A. On gnews.org.
Q. And could you please read the headline in the image.
A. Yes. "Highlights of Mr. Miles Guo's live broadcast on
September 29th, 2021."
Q. And in the image, can you read beneath——at the bottom of
the image, what does it say in the line at the bottom?
A. Beneath the heading, the name on the video or——
Q. Yeah, at the very bottom of the image.
A. Oh, G News, GTV, and I can't really make out that last one.
Himalaya?
Q. And Mr. Medrano, I'll ask you just to read the first
paragraph underneath that.
A. Yes. "The safest virtual coin at the moment is the
Himalaya Coin because 20 percent of the value is anchored to
gold. The addition of a stablecoin makes good to great. A
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virtual currency should be bought if it has stablecoins, a
payment system, and a peg to gold."
MR. FERGENSON: All right. Ms. Loftus, let's go
to——we can scroll to page——just down a little bit to this next
entry.
Q. Mr. Medrano, what's the date of this video?
A. October 20, 2021.
Q. And where was this posted?
A. On odysee.com.
Q. Do you know what that is?
A. I do not.
Q. And are there——
MR. FERGENSON: Actually, let's just scroll down
slightly.
Q. And I'm going to ask you, Mr. Medrano, to read me one, but
I want to play some of the video first.
MR. FERGENSON: Ms. Loftus, could we please play
Government Exhibit C459-V1.
(Video played)
MR. FERGENSON: If we can pause it. And maybe if we
can just restart it and put it on mute.
Q. And Mr. Medrano, on page 121, I'll ask you to read from the
first paragraph there under V1, about the fourth line from the
bottom, that starts, "Let me go back."
A. On the first paragraph?
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Q. Correct. First paragraph, about fourth line from the
bottom. "Let me go back."
A. Begin there, on "Let me go back"?
Q. Yes. And if you can finish the paragraph.
A. Okay. "Let me go back to your H coins. All of us, your H
coins, anyway, Brother Seven doesn't have any. My lawyer said
in advance today, Mr. Guo, when you talk about H Coin again, it
must be your H Coins, not ours, your H coins."
Q. And actually, you can continue reading for a few more
sentences, Mr. Medrano.
A. "These bastards are too dark, this is the evil of capital.
Let me tell you the evil of capital. That's what I'm going to
. . . So bad these bastards! What is called? I am talking
about your H coins, Brother Seven designed it at that time. It
has the first one, it has the attribute of currency, why? It
has 20 percent gold. Awesome, it was born as currency on the
first day, so it has value, and it's linked to gold, not to
others . . . clear gold directly. No matter how much it
raises, 20 percent will turn into gold. This is the golden age
of human beings——"
Q. You can stop there. Thank you, Mr. Medrano.
MR. FERGENSON: If we could go now, Ms. Loftus, to
page 123.
Q. And I want to focus you on V3, Mr. Medrano. And I'll ask
you to read the sentence that starts on the fourth line. It
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just says H, and then it says "H Coin must be." Can you start
reading there through the end of the paragraph, please.
A. "H Coin must be making money. If anyone loses money, I can
say that I will compensate 100 percent. I give you
100 percent. Whoever loses money, I will bear it. He will
definitely earn it. It's just how much you earn, but for you,
to be honest, for you guys, it will be three times, five times,
ten times, a hundred times."
Q. And we can stop there, Mr. Medrano.
MR. FERGENSON: All right. Ms. Loftus, let's go to
page 126, please.
And towards the bottom there.
Q. All right. Mr. Medrano, what's the date of this video?
A. November 1, 2021.
Q. Where was it posted?
A. Gnews.org.
Q. And are there subtitles on this video?
A. Yes.
Q. Can you please read the subtitle on the screen.
A. "It will be far beyond your imagination."
MR. FERGENSON: All right. Ms. Loftus, please play
Government Exhibit C300-V.
(Video played)
MR. FERGENSON: You can play a little more.
(Video continued)
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MR. FERGENSON: All right. Ms. Loftus, let's go back
to the chart, please. We can go to page 130.
BY MR. FERGENSON:
Q. All right. Now what's the date of this entry, Mr. Medrano?
A. November 9, 2021.
Q. Where was it posted?
A. Gnews.org.
Q. Is it an article or a video?
A. It's an article.
Q. Could you please read the headline in the image.
A. "When you buy Hcoin, you buy a hen laying golden eggs."
Q. And could you please read the text underneath that in the
first paragraph, please.
A. Yes. "Miles: If you buy H Coin, you are doing right for
investment. You are an investment, not a speculation.
Besides, what you buy is not as simple as an appreciation, what
you buy is a hen laying golden egg."
MR. FERGENSON: All right. Ms. Loftus, let's go to
page 134, please.
Q. All right. Now Mr. Medrano, what's the date on this entry?
A. November 16, 2021.
Q. Where was it posted?
A. Gnews.org.
Q. Are there subtitles on this?
A. Yes.
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Q. Would you please read the subtitle in the image.
A. "You know how much it is worth? What is 5 percent of
2 trillion."
MR. FERGENSON: All right. Now, Ms. Loftus, if we
could please play Government Exhibit C432-V.
(Video played)
MR. FERGENSON: And if we could go back to the chart,
page 134.
Q. And could I ask you to please read the text underneath the
still image.
A. Yes. "Also good people have to live a safe and decent
life. Just like I said, any G Club's buyers donors to the Rule
of Law Foundation, cannot include people whose donations were
unsuccessful. And GTV investors, borrowers, and H Coin owners
always have all the VVIP treatment in the future. According to
your different investments, no one in the whole mankind dares
to do this. You never thought about how much total comrades in
arms invested in GTV. Less than 1 billion U.S. dollars, and
now GTV owns 5 percent of Himalaya Reserve."
Q. And you can keep reading, please.
A. "You know how much it is worth? What is 5 percent of
2 trillion. 100 million US dollars, excluding other
institutions []investment. How much money do you have, have
you calculated it?"
MR. FERGENSON: All right. Ms. Loftus, let's now go
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to page 140 of the chart, please. And if we could scroll down.
Could we just zoom in on this entry, please.
Q. All right. Mr. Medrano, what's the date of this entry?
A. December 10, 2021.
Q. And where was it posted?
A. On YouTube.
Q. Mr. Medrano, what's the color of the car in the image?
A. Red.
Q. Do you recognize the model?
A. Yeah, it's——
Q. What is it?
A. A Lamborghini.
Q. And can you read the text underneath the image.
A. Yes. "Miles Guo, Hcoin To The Moon [Official Video]"
MR. FERGENSON: All right. Ms. Loftus, let's play
Government Exhibit 370-V.
(Video played)
MR. FERGENSON: Ms. Loftus, if we could just go back
quickly to about 2:10 in.
Q. Mr. Medrano, what kind of coins are depicted here?
A. Gold coins.
MR. FERGENSON: If we could go just a couple seconds
forward.
Pause. I'm sorry. Another second.
Okay. That's fine, Ms. Loftus. Let's go to about
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2:43 in. And can you play for another second.
Now actually——withdrawn. Ms. Loftus, can we actually
just pull up Government Exhibit CT38.
And can we pull up Government Exhibit CT42.
All right. Ms. Loftus, let's go back to the chart,
please.
And if we could go now to page 147.
BY MR. FERGENSON:
Q. Mr. Medrano, what's the date on this entry?
A. January 10, 2022.
Q. And where was it posted?
A. On gettr.com.
Q. As part of your work, did you preserve things from
gettr.com?
A. Yes.
Q. At a high level, what's your understanding of what Gettr
is?
A. It's a social media plat——
MR. SCHIRICK: Objection.
THE COURT: Overruled. You may answer.
A. A social media platform.
Q. Are there English subtitles on this video?
A. No.
MR. FERGENSON: All right. So Ms. Loftus, if we could
pull up, please, Government Exhibit W1020-V.
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(Video played)
MR. FERGENSON: We can pause it, Ms. Loftus. Maybe we
can put that on mute.
Q. And Mr. Medrano, from your binder, on page 147, towards the
bottom, it's about the fifth line, that starts, "Thirdly, once
you have purchased," could you please read from there through
the bottom.
A. Yes.
Q. Thank you.
A. "Thirdly, once you have purchased the coins, if you have
any financial losses, Qige [Brother 7] will be responsible.
You will make——you will only make money, without experiencing
any losses. You will only make money, without experiencing any
losses. This is for our domestic fellow fighters. This is
guaranteed by Qige [Brother 7]. Thank you."
MR. FERGENSON: Ms. Loftus, let's go back to the
chart, please.
And we can go to page 150.
And scroll down.
Q. All right. What's the date of this entry, Mr. Medrano?
A. January 26, 2022.
Q. Where was it posted?
A. On Gettr.
MR. FERGENSON: All right. And Ms. Loftus, let's play
Government Exhibit W1021-V.
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(Video played)
MR. FERGENSON: Ms. Loftus, maybe we can place it on
mute.
Q. And Mr. Medrano, from your binder on page 150, can you just
read almost all the text on that page underneath the video.
A. Yes. "We are proud of our best KYC in all humanity. We
have 5 billion in cash awaiting for KYC. That's not what I
said. He checked it himself. We have six major brands to
announce H Coin, and then H Coin can buy things. We will halt
it. We will let our HPay be on shelf and ask more KYC to come
in. Finally, I told him, we briefly talked about this H Coin
issue with the governments of various countries. Miles, your
design is awesome, you are a genius! Great! I told you how
much H Coin will——"
Q. That's good. Thank you, Mr. Medrano.
MR. FERGENSON: Ms. Loftus, if we could go back to the
chart and go to page 151, just the next page.
Q. All right. And now the entry on the screen, Mr. Medrano,
what's the date?
A. February 2, 2022.
Q. Where was it posted?
A. Gnews.org.
Q. And can you just read——you can just read the headline in
the still image.
A. Yes. "Investors were amazed by the brilliant design of
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Himalaya Coin."
MR. FERGENSON: All right. Ms. Loftus, let's go to
page 151, please. I'm sorry, I mean 155.
Q. All right. Now what's the date of this entry?
A. February 16, 2022.
Q. Where was it posted?
A. Gnews.org.
Q. Are there subtitles in this video?
A. Yes.
Q. Can you read the subtitle in the image.
A. "Fellow fighters, you own the fourth largest digital
currency exchange."
MR. FERGENSON: All right. Ms. Loftus, let's please
play Government Exhibit C491-V.
(Video played)
MR. FERGENSON: You can pause it there.
And if we could go back to the chart, Page 155,
please.
BY MR. FERGENSON:
Q. Mr. Medrano, I'll ask you to read the fourth paragraph
down, please.
A. Yeah. "If the digital banking of Himalaya Exchange were
launched and if a so-and-so country invested (in the Himalaya
Exchange), you would get wealthier while I go bankrupt."
MR. FERGENSON: And Ms. Loftus, let's go now to
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page 167.
Q. And Mr. Medrano, what's the entry on this chart? What's
the date? Excuse me.
A. May 15, 2022.
Q. Where was it posted?
A. Gettr.com.
Q. Are there subtitles in this video?
A. Yes, there are.
Q. Please read the subtitle in the image.
A. "All of them have invested in our G series and are our
fellow fighters."
MR. FERGENSON: Ms. Loftus, let's please play
Government Exhibit C351-V.
(Video played)
Q. Mr. Medrano——
MR. FERGENSON: Ms. Loftus, let's go to page 178 of
the chart. And if we could scroll down, please.
Q. Mr. Medrano, what's the date of this?
A. November 27, 2022.
Q. And what's the source here?
A. Miles Guo Gettr account.
Q. And if we could, does this video have subtitles?
A. It does.
MR. FERGENSON: If we could please go to GX GTR1,
Ms. Loftus. And we'll play it about a minute and a half.
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(Video played)
MR. FERGENSON: All right. Ms. Loftus, let's actually
go back to the chart again and go to page 180, please.
Q. All right. And what's the date of this video, Mr. Medrano?
A. December 4, 2022.
Q. What's the source?
A. Miles Guo Gettr account.
Q. And are there subtitles here?
A. Yes.
Q. Please read the subtitle in the image.
A. "HCN highest value is."
MR. FERGENSON: And Ms. Loftus, let's play Government
Exhibit GTR5.
We'll play about two minutes.
(Video played)
MR. FERGENSON: You can pause there.
Q. Mr. Medrano, turning——
MR. FERGENSON: Ms. Loftus, if we could turn back to
the chart at pages 180-181.
Q. And Mr. Medrano, I'll ask you to read the last paragraph on
page 180 please.
A. Yeah. "Only such currency functions as a currency whether
you are on the moon or Mars, transferring funds instantly,
unaffected by nothing. This is blockchain. This is where
humanity is heading. The future value of NFSC is being a safe
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haven for humanity to access money with the lowest cost where
elites converge."
Q. And then could you read the first sentence on page 181,
please.
A. Yes. "HCN highest value is, it is a stablecoin."
MR. FERGENSON: All right. Ms. Loftus, let's scroll
down more to page 181.
Q. And what's the date of this video, Mr. Medrano?
A. December 16, 2022.
Q. And the source?
A. Miles Guo Gettr account.
Q. And there are subtitles?
A. Yes.
Q. Can you please read the subtitle in the image.
A. "If HCN is not pegged with HDO by 1:1."
MR. FERGENSON: And Ms. Loftus, if we could please
play Government Exhibit GTR8.
(Video played)
MR. FERGENSON: All right. Ms. Loftus, let's go back
to the chart, please. And if we could go to page 182.
And, oh, if you could scroll up slightly.
BY MR. FERGENSON:
Q. Mr. Medrano, I'd ask you to just read the third paragraph
there that starts, "Think about it."
A. Yes. "Think about it. If HCN is not pegged with HDO by
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1:1, and without a stringent KYC process, can it make it this
far? It would have been long gone. Think of what it entails."
MR. FERGENSON: If we could scroll down slightly.
Q. And can you read the last two sentences in this excerpt.
A. "Moreover, FTX misappropriated clients' funds. They are a
bunch of crooks."
MR. FERGENSON: Ms. Loftus, if we can go page 184,
please.
Q. What's the date of this video?
A. January 3, 2023.
Q. What's the source?
A. The Miles Guo Gettr account.
Q. Does it have subtitles?
A. It does.
Q. Can you read the subtitle in the image.
A. "Misappropriated your money as an investor."
MR. FERGENSON: Ms. Loftus, could we please play
Government Exhibit GTR12.
(Video played)
MR. FERGENSON: You can pause there.
Q. Mr. Medrano, can you read the subtitle on the screen,
please.
A. "Which makes the customers feel very unsafe."
MR. FERGENSON: Ms. Loftus, if we can go back to the
chart, please. And let's go to page 200, please.
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Q. All right. Now on the bottom part of 200, Mr. Medrano,
what's the entry? What's the date of that entry?
A. February 28, 2023.
Q. Where was it posted?
A. On gnews.org.
Q. The video or article?
A. It's an article.
Q. What's the headline?
A. February 28, 2023, "Full text of Miles Guo's Gettr video
(1st)."
Q. All right. And the text in the chart, is that the full
text or just an excerpt?
A. An excerpt.
Q. Okay. Could you please read the text in the chart.
A. Yes. "Let us take Himalaya Coin (HCN) as an example.
"Fellow fighters, your HCNs have a lockup period,
right? Suppose Brother 7 has HCNs with no lockup restriction;
then he can sneakily sell his HCNs and redeem cash every day,
right?
"But ask yourself: what would be the consequence?
"Your HCNs are restricted from circulation, so while
you can behold the price of the HCN, still, only Brother 7 or a
handful of people can buy and sell HCNs in the market and cash
out. In this case, is there going to be inflation? No! For
your HCNs are not in circulation at all!"
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Q. Mr. Medrano, what was the date of this article which said
your HCNs are not in circulation at all?
A. February 28, 2023.
MR. FERGENSON: Ms. Loftus, now let's go to page 192.
Go back in time a little bit.
Q. And Mr. Medrano, on page 192, what's the date of this chart
entry?
A. February 13, 2023.
Q. So that's about two weeks or so before the one we just
looked at about no circulation?
A. Correct.
Q. All right.
THE COURT: What page are you at again?
MR. FERGENSON: 192, your Honor.
THE COURT: Go ahead.
Q. Mr. Medrano, can you just read just the first sentence of
this article.
A. Yes. "In the past week, the price of Himalayan Coin (H
Coin) dropped back to around $20, with an average daily trading
volume of about 80,000 pieces and a one-week trading volume of
about 550,000 pieces.
Q. And two weeks before the no circulation, what did this say
the daily trading volume was?
MR. SCHIRICK: Objection.
THE COURT: Overruled.
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A. The date——
Q. The daily.
A. 80,000 pieces.
MR. FERGENSON: All right. Now, Ms. Loftus, I'm not
going to go——well, I'm only going to go back slightly in time
now.
If we can just go to page 189 now.
Q. All right, Mr. Medrano, what's the date of the entry on
page 189?
A. February 8, 2023.
Q. Where was this posted?
A. On gettr.com.
Q. And the first video we watched was April 2020, right?
A. Correct.
Q. This is almost three years later, right?
A. Correct.
Q. Now there's two images in the selected contact, correct?
A. Yes.
Q. Are these images from the video?
A. Yes.
Q. What's in brackets above the second——the bottom ship?
A. It's the time stamp where that image is taken from.
MR. FERGENSON: And Ms. Loftus, if we could zoom in a
little bit on the bottom snip.
Thank you, Ms. Loftus.
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Q. Now, Mr. Medrano, aside from reviewing exhibits for your
testimony, do you have any independent knowledge of what A10
is?
A. I do not.
MR. FERGENSON: All right. So we can zoom out,
Ms. Loftus, and there's two snips here.
Q. Mr. Medrano, did you help make a chart of additional snips
from this video?
A. Yes, I did.
MR. FERGENSON: Ms. Loftus, if we could just show the
witness only what's marked as Government Exhibit Z10.
Q. Mr. Medrano, is this the chart you were just referring to?
A. Yes.
Q. Does this chart accurately reflect information from
Government Exhibit 451-V, the video we were just looking at?
A. Yes.
MR. FERGENSON: The government offers Government
Exhibit Z10.
MR. SCHIRICK: No objection.
THE COURT: It is admitted.
(Government's Exhibit Z10 received in evidence)
MR. FERGENSON: Ms. Loftus, if we could publish that,
and your Honor, if I may publish hard copies to the jury and to
the Court and the witness.
THE COURT: Yes.
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MR. FERGENSON: Thank you, your Honor.
Actually, your Honor, I jumped the gun on that. We'll
stick with the screen for now. A later exhibit I will want to
publish.
THE COURT: Okay.
MR. FERGENSON: Apologies.
Q. Okay. Ms. Loftus, we now have Government Exhibit Z10,
right? Mr. Medrano. Excuse me.
A. Yes.
Q. Okay. Thank you.
MR. FERGENSON: Ms. Loftus, if we could just scroll
through the seven pages, please.
All right. And you can go to the last one.
Q. Did these snips appear in the video, Mr. Medrano?
A. Yes.
MR. FERGENSON: All right. So Ms. Loftus, if we could
now go back to a stipulation, Government Exhibit Stip 2.
All right. And this is the stipulation regarding web
pages and videos. And Ms. Loftus, if we could go to page 20,
please.
Q. And Mr. Medrano, I want to focus you on GX W164. Do you
see that?
A. I do.
Q. Could you read——well, what date was that preserved?
A. March 25, 2024.
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Q. And did you preserve it?
A. I did. Yes, I did.
Q. And could you read the domain? You don't have to read all
the numbers but just the start of the domain.
A. Yes. A-10.zendesk.com.
THE COURT: All right. That's a-10.
A. Yes.
MR. FERGENSON: All right. Now Ms. Loftus, if we
could pull up that exhibit, GX W164.
Q. And Mr. Medrano, is this the preservation we were just
looking at?
A. Yes.
Q. Could you——in the top left corner, could you please read
what it says there.
A. A-10 Customer Service Center.
Q. And then beneath that, in large bold letters, could you
read what that says.
A. A10 Project Introduction.
Q. And when does it say it was posted beneath that?
A. One year ago.
MR. FERGENSON: All right. And Ms. Loftus, are we
able to add, you know, on the right GX Z10, just pull them up
side by side?
(Continued on next page)
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BY MR. FERGENSON:
Q. If you can zoom out on the one on the right, and if we
could scroll just to see how the pages look. All right. Keep
scrolling. That's fine, Ms. Loftus. Thank you.
Mr. Medrano, before your testimony, did you do this
comparison? Did you look at both of these side-by-side?
A. Yes.
Q. And how did they compare?
A. They were the same.
Q. All right. Now, Ms. Loftus, I'm going to focus on GXW164,
and I now want to pull up what's in evidence as GXW164-T.
MR. FERGENSON: Your Honor, this is the exhibit W164-T
I would like to publish if that's all right?
THE COURT: Go ahead.
Q. Now, Mr. Medrano, looking at page one, could I ask you to
read the English text on this page?
A. Yes. Withdrawing money remotely, taking a drastic measure
to deal with a situation, using money to destroy the Communist
Party. A10 project introduction. Himalayan farm Alliance
Committee, February 8, 2023.
Q. Let's go to page two, please. Please read the English
text.
A. Yes. What is the A10 project? Refers to the five percent
equity of Gettr and the five percent equity of Himalaya
Exchange. Explanation. The project was originally called A15
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and also included the five percent equity of G/Club, because
G/Club is a top global club. Member information should not be
disclosed to shareholders and the public, so A15 became A10.
Q. Do you know what A15 is, Mr. Medrano?
A. I do not.
Q. Let's go to page three, please. All right.
Mr. Medrano, just the center top English text, what
does that say?
A. A10 project structure diagram.
Q. If we could zoom in a little more, Ms. Loftus, on the
image. Let's just start with the top row of this diagram. In
the top left, could you read the English text for that?
A. Yes. New and old G/Club cards, SEC refunds, digital bank
to A10, etc. Other types of rights.
Q. And then moving over one to the right. Could you read the
English text for that?
A. New investment more than 100,000.
Q. And then again to the right, please read the text for that?
A. New investment less than 100,000.
Q. Now, for the next row down, can you read the English text
for those boxes, please?
A. Yes. The left each fund or entity, each new fund.
Q. Scroll up, please.
A. In the center, each new fund.
Q. You can read all three.
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A. Holding fund, holding company. And then the far right,
each SPV.
Q. And then can you read the bottom two?
A. Yes. Five five percent Gettr, five percent Himalaya
exchange.
Q. Let's go to the next page, please.
Mr. Medrano, I'll ask you to read the English text for
this page please, just read it.
A. Which investments can obtain A10 equity? One, new and old
G/Club cards. Two, new platform investment. Three, new and
ongoing investment, including card purchase, and an A10
investment. Four, funds returned by SEC and reinvestment.
Five, digital bank project converted to A10 project. Six,
funds not received from Himalaya Exchange. Seven, other rights
and interest of comrades in the farm.
And note for items four, five, six and seven involving
fund freezing or litigation, the equity will be retained until
the litigation is over and the funds are unfrozen.
Q. Let's go to the next page, please.
Mr. Medrano, could you please read the center, the top
center English text?
A. A10 equity and G/Club card benefits.
Q. Can you read the text underneath that.
A. Anyone who obtains A10 equity will be given a G/Club card
of the same value *rounded in units of 10,000.
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Q. Can you read the next text, please?
A. Anyone who obtains G/Club card benefits will be given an
A10 equity of the same value.
Q. Let's go to the next page, please.
Now, Mr. Medrano, could you please read the English
text here?
A. Notes on investment with HDO. There is no difference in
equity value between investment with HDO and fiat currency.
When investing with HDO please note: One, for those who have
wired HDO to their FMV accounts before 12 on January 28, 2023,
Eastern Time, refunded their purchase and deposited with fiat
currency after January 1, 2023, except for over-the-counter
trading without going through the farm, you can get five five
percent Himalaya coin reward by investing in A10 with this part
of HDO.
Two, for those who invest in A10 or buy cards with HDO
obtained by selling Himalaya coin after 12 on January 28, 2023,
Eastern Time, you can not give five five percent Himalaya coin
reward. Three, for other HDO, such as HDO owned in the account
before 12 on January 28, 2023, the reward method will be
determined separately. In principle, if you can prove that the
HDO invested is not from the sale of Himalaya coin after 12 on
January 28, you can get rewards equivalent to other
investments.
Q. Let's go to the next page please. And this looks like this
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is the look like a dup, right, Mr. Medrano?
A. Correct.
Q. Let's go to the next one. Could you read the text here,
please?
A. Yes. Digital bank project. The digital bank project has
been suspended due to the Chinese Communist Party sabotage, and
all investment funds have been frozen in the bank. Comrades
have three options:
One, switch to the A10 project, get a card of the
corresponding amount, and get five five percent Himalaya coin
reward. Two, wait for the future digital bank project, but
there is no five percent Himalaya coin reward. Three, refund.
Need to wait for the funds to be unfrozen.
Q. Let's go to the next page, please. And if we could,
Mr. Medrano, I'll ask you just to read the second paragraph.
A. The end date of this A10 financing is not yet determined,
but because it is in a state of war with the Chinese Communist
Party, temporary changes are not ruled out. Please understand.
Q. If we can go to page 10, please.
Mr. Medrano, I'll ask you to read the text here?
A. Yes. Implementation and lockup of the Himalaya coin reward.
After the financing is completed and the A10 rights are
approved, the reward qualifications will be checked
immediately, and the corresponding Himalaya coin and Gettr coin
rewards will be implemented. The Himalaya coins reward at this
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time have a lockup period from the date of issuance of which 20
percent are locked up for one year, 40 percent are locked up
for two years, and the remaining 40 percent are locked up for
three years. Gettr coin is not locked.
Q. If we can go to the next page. Could you please read the
text here, Mr. Medrano?
A. Current progress and plans. For completed investment, such
as old cards, digital bank project transfers, etc., just sign
the relevant documents for subscribing to fund shares or
shares. For the SEC refund and new investment, start with
large funds of more than 100,000 US dollars and complete
various procedures; wire payment and reconciliation.
It is plan to start small and medium size SPV
financing at the end of February and the beginning of March,
and the minimum investment amount is not yet determined. This
financing will be organized and implemented by the Alliance
finance department and investment matters will be explained in
each farm one after another.
Q. We can just go to the last page, page 12.
Ms. Loftus, if we could go back to the chart, please
GXZ-9. This is the video where the original snips we were
looking at came from, Mr. Medrano?
A. Correct.
Q. So, Ms. Loftus, if we can go now to page 190.
At the top here, the first entry here, Mr. Medrano,
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and if you could read -- actually, what's the date of that top
entry?
A. February 9, 2023.
Q. And what's the source?
A. The Miles Guo Gettr account.
Q. Could you read the English text there, please.
A. Dear fellow fighters. Brother Changdao, Nicole, Little
Prince, and all frontline fellow fighters will write a new
chapter in Washington D.C. The balloon event is the biggest
gift given to us. Ultimately all the CCP's infiltration forces
in the United States will be uprooted. Next the Iron Blood
Group and the Alliance will live broadcast to help the fellow
fighters respond on the A10 and G/Club card projects.
Communist Party, you are finished.
Q. Let's scroll down a little here to GXW201, please.
Actually, if we could scroll down slightly more to GXW200.
What's the date of this entry, Mr. Medrano?
A. February 10, 2023.
Q. That's the next day?
A. Correct.
Q. Where was it posted?
A. On G News.org.
Q. Can you please read the headline?
A. February 10, 2023, Miles Guo's Gettr 1st.
Q. In the bottom left of the image, what does it say there?
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A. Miles with a verified icon "V" icon.
Q. Mr. Medrano, I ask you to read the text in the chart,
please.
A. There will be a live broadcast on Sunday. Everyone please
pay close attention to the information from the Himalaya
Alliance Committee and Fay Fay show. You can get answers to
your questions on the A-10 investment project. I can't reply
to so many messages from you one by one.
Q. Could you read the remainder of the excerpt, please.
A. The Fay Fay show and the Himalaya Alliance Committee will
answer all our fellow fighters' questions about the A10
investment project.
Q. Ms. Loftus, if we can go to page 194, please. If we could
scroll down?
What's the date of this entry?
A. February 17, 2023.
Q. Where was it posted?
A. G News.org.
Q. Can you read the headline, please.
A. Fay Fay show A10, Q & A.
Q. Mr. Medrano, I'll ask you to please read the text in the
chart. Well, read onto about half the next page.
A. Okay. About the A10 project. The five five percent equity
of Gettr and the five percent equity of Himalaya reserve are
called A10 together. G/Clubs is an operation form of private
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equity companies. As a top global club, it has a high level of
confidentiality, so it does not participate in this project.
An investment of one Yuan in A10 is equivalent to an
investment of 10,000 Yuan, and its shares are scarce and have
high economic growth value. Gettr and Himalaya Reserve will
not find institutions to raise funds, but will directly list
and trade stocks. At this stage the fundraising process has
been completed through the participation of comrades in arms.
Since A10's investment rights are relevant to the amount of
investment, too much fundraising will dilute future
expectations, and coupled with the continuous destruction of
CCP's fundraising will be --
Q. If we can scroll down, Ms. Loftus, please. And you can just
read the next three lines.
A. Close at any time. Comrades who are interested in
investing, rapid action is the biggest guarantee for
participating in the A10 project.
Q. You can continue that next paragraph.
A. How much will A10 stock be worth in the future? You can
refer to the current market valuation of hitech companies such
as Twitter, Facebook, Google and ChatGPT.
Q. Ms. Loftus, if we can go to page 199.
What's the date, Mr. Medrano?
A. February 20, 2023.
Q. What's the source?
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A. The Miles Guo Gettr account.
Q. Can you please read the subtitle in the snip?
A. That's why we need to promote the A10 project quickly.
Q. Ms. Loftus -- actually, Mr. Medrano, could you please read
the text under where it says caption?
A. Yes. Miles Guo interpretation is that it's better for
fellow fighters to invest in A10 as early as possible.
Otherwise their interest will be eaten up by major
shareholders.
Q. Ms. Loftus, if we could play Government Exhibit Gettr 16.
(Media played)
Q. Ms. Loftus, let's go back to the chart, please. And we can
scroll down.
And, Mr. Medrano, I'll ask you to read the video text,
please.
A. Yes. You asked us to complete the five five percent A10
project of Himalaya Exchange now. Let our fellow fighters come
in. I have the power to allocate the funds. Otherwise, if our
fellow fighters come in late; for example, half a year later,
the previous investors would have already come in and sold all
the coin and they wouldn't even bother to calculate the shares
with you.
The previous shareholders have already taken the
money, that's why we need to promote the A10 project quickly.
Let our fellow fighters also get five five percent of the coin
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issued this year. There will always be five percent in the
years, 98 and 99 of the future. That's why, why wait? We can
issue it at any time. In the legitimate white paper, it has
been states that it can be release at any time. Everyone is
eager to have it.
Q. Ms. Loftus, let's go down now to page 206.
Mr. Medrano, what's the date here?
A. March 5, 2023.
Q. Where was this posted?
A. G News.org.
Q. Can you read the headline?
A. March 4th, 2023, Full text of Miles Guo's Gettr video.
Q. Towards the -- let's actually focus on Government Exhibit
W183, Mr. Medrano. What's the date of that entry?
A. March 8, 2023.
Q. Where was this posted?
A. On G News.org.
Q. Can you read the headline.
A. March 7, 2023, Full text of Miles Guo's Gettr video.
Q. Mr. Medrano, can you please read the text in the chart?
A. Yes. Right now the most critical thing for us that we
should have common sense, we should focus on developing our A10
investment program, expending the G/Club member group and
gathering more fellow fighters.
Q. Can you scroll down, Ms. Loftus.
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A. Most institutional investors are very envious of those who
can participate in our investment programs.
Q. This was March 2023, right?
A. Correct.
Q. You started in April 2020?
A. Correct.
Q. I'm going to go back in time again. Actually, withdrawn.
Let's go to a different chart, Ms. Loftus. This is Government
Exhibit Z11. We can publish that.
Mr. Medrano, is this another chart you help prepare?
A. Yes.
Q. What's the date here?
A. November 20, 2018.
Q. And can you read the text in the selected content, please?
A. The one at the bottom on in the screen?
Q. Underneath V1.
A. What Miles Guo has committed to since he's enjoying the
freedoms of the democratic west is to establish $100 million
fund immediately which will be called the Rule of Law Fund.
Q. If we could scroll down to the next page, please.
Mr. Medrano, could you please read what's on this
page?
A. This is his money.
Q. This is 2018, right?
A. Yes.
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Q. Can we go back just one more from Z9, Ms. Loftus, please.
We're still in March 2023. I want to go all the way back to
June 2020, please, page 11.
The date of this entry, Mr. Medrano, on page 11,
what's the date?
A. June 20, 2020.
Q. Where was this posted?
A. GTV.org.
Q. We're almost at the beginning of the chart, right?
A. Yes.
Q. Let's scroll to page 12, please. We're going to go to V5.
Mr. Medrano, could you please read the text under V5
from June 20, 2020?
A. Yes. I hope you will remember that Wengui told you that you
will not lose a penny. And of course, I will not let others
steal a penny from us and defraud us of a penny.
MR. FERGENSON: May I have a moment, your Honor. No
further questions. Thank you.
THE COURT: Cross examination.
CROSS-EXAMINATION
BY MR. SCHIRICK:
Q. Thank you. Good afternoon, Mr. Medrano.
A. Good afternoon.
Q. You've testified about Government Exhibits Z9, Z10 and Z11,
right?
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A. Correct.
Q. And these are charts showing statements from a variety of
different sources, right?
A. Correct.
Q. And many of the sources as we've seen here this morning,
this afternoon, are videos, right?
A. Yes.
Q. And many of the sources are documents, right?
A. Documents?
Q. Documents, yes.
A. Articles or --
Q. Well, I think you testified that you performed an online
preservation?
A. Of the online articles.
Q. Correct. To use your word, articles. I would just say
documents generally. Articles is a fair statement as well.
So you have both videos and then you have articles and
documents, right?
A. Yeah.
Q. We're agreed on that?
A. Videos, articles, and some social media post too I believe.
Q. Fair enough. In some cases the source documents that
underlie the charts that we just talked about are very long?
A. Yes.
Q. In some cases extremely long, two to three hours?
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A. Correct.
Q. And you testified on direct that you created this chart,
right?
A. I assisted with the creation, correct. I reviewed it and
confirm its validity.
Q. And when did you see the first draft of the chart, do you
recall?
A. Approximately two weeks ago, very recently.
Q. And when the first draft arrived to you, was it in a fairly
advance state of development?
A. Yes, it was similar to what we're reviewing now, correct.
Q. And I believe you testified on direct that it was the
government prosecution team that created that draft; is that
right?
A. That is correct.
Q. And then you made some changes to it, correct?
A. I wouldn't say changes. I made some minor corrections. I
didn't change any of the things that were on it. I just -- if
something didn't appear as it did on the source document, then
I made a minor correction.
Q. Understood. So you sort of proofread it?
A. Correct.
Q. For minor corrections, right?
A. Yeah, grammatical errors.
Q. And typos?
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A. Yes.
Q. And you checked the dates?
A. Exactly.
Q. Things of that nature?
A. Correct.
Q. So while you help create the chart, it's fair to say that
this chart was really something that the government prosecution
team created in the main; is that fair?
A. That's fair.
Q. And you also testified to this on direct, but I'd just like
to confirm if you bear with me. So it's clear that the
prosecutors decided what to put into the chart, right?
A. That is correct.
Q. And it's clear that the prosecutors chose which videos to
excerpt in the chart, right?
A. That is correct.
Q. And it's clear that the prosecutors chose which articles to
excerpt in the chart, right?
A. Correct.
Q. And then it's clear that selecting the documents from which
the excerpts were taken, that was also done by the prosecution
team, right?
A. So the excerpts from the articles themselves within the
chart were done by the prosecutors; is that your question?
Q. It was a bad question. I'll try again.
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So it's clear that the documents that underlie the
chart were also selected by the prosecutors, correct?
MR. FERGENSON: Your Honor, this is fine, but just
clear, it's correct, perhaps. I just object to the
characterization.
THE COURT: If you just restate your question.
MR. SCHIRICK: Sure, your Honor.
Q. The prosecutor selected the underlying documents, correct?
A. Is correct.
Q. You didn't watch all of the videos that are in this chart
from start to finish, did you?
A. I did not.
Q. Good for you. Do you know whether the prosecution team
watched all of the videos from start to finish?
A. I don't know.
Q. You just don't know?
A. I don't know.
Q. Would you agree with me that by selecting certain things to
put in this chart, the government prosecutors also decided what
to leave out of the chart?
A. Yeah, they decided what was in the chart, correct.
Q. By definition, if it's not in, it's out, right?
A. Correct, what they decided to put in is what's on there.
Q. And is it your understanding that care was taken by the
prosecution team to make sure that Mr. Guo's statements
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reflected in this chart in the selected content were presented
fairly?
MR. FERGENSON: Objection.
THE COURT: Sustained.
Q. Do you have any understanding as to whether care was taken
to properly give context --
MR. FERGENSON: Objection.
Q. -- to the content?
THE COURT: Sustained.
Q. On direct did the government take you through any selected
content in the chart in which Mr. Guo talks about the CCP. Do
you recall that?
A. Did they take me -- could you re-ask the question.
Q. Sure. Mr. Ferguson took you through a number of different
selected content in the chart?
A. Yes.
Q. But not all of it, right?
A. I don't believe it was all of them; but, yes, we went
through a large majority of them.
Q. My question is, do you recall whether he took you through
any content in which Mr. Guo talked about the CCP?
A. I mean, I don't recall targeting those specific content,
but I do recall reviewing some that did indicate stuff about
the CCP.
Q. Let's take a look at some examples of the content from the
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chart. If we could please pull up GXZ9 at page two. We can
publish it to everyone. We can drop that call out. Let's just
take a look at the underlying document. Thank you.
You see this document, Mr. Medrano?
A. I do.
Q. And you remember testifying about this, right?
A. Yes, I do.
Q. And this is the excerpt from the chart that's a summary of
an April 2020 video; is that right?
A. That is correct.
Q. And this is a video if you recall where Mr. Guo talks about
the GTV private placement; is that right?
A. I don't recall exactly what he spoke about, but I do recall
going through this video.
Q. Fair enough. And as we covered before, there are
statements that are left out of this summary, right?
A. There are statements that are left out of the -- there are
portion excerpts from the video. It's not the full video.
Q. That are left out of the summary, right?
MR. FERGENSON: Objection. Asked and answered.
THE COURT: Asked and answered. He said that these
are excerpts, not the whole videos.
Q. So, for example, there's a quote here that follows the two
minute and 17 marker that's in brackets. You see that,
Mr. Medrano?
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A. Yes, I do.
Q. That begins, let me give you a brief introduction. You see
that?
A. Yes, I do.
Q. Now, let's take a look at the underlying document which is
GXZ26-T which is in evidence. I'll just ask if we could please
underline in the first paragraph the sentence which begins when
you see this video, It is not a public video. Okay.
Mr. Medrano, do you see that that sentence is
highlighted in red?
A. Yes, I do.
Q. That's the first sentence that appears in the summary
chart, correct?
A. Correct.
Q. And then the summary chart jumps to the two minute 17
second mark after that, right?
A. Correct.
Q. If you could please look in the second box that's displayed
on your screen that begins, I haven't had breakfast yet?
A. Okay.
Q. I'm just going to read that. You let me know if I get it
right.
I haven't had breakfast yet, and my blood sugar is
low, so I can't get too excited. This video is just a brief
introduction to friends and fellow fighters who have the
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intention to invest in GTV so that you can understand the
documents to be signed in the investment and during investment,
as well as some basic procedures. This is not a reference for
investment. Did I read that correctly?
A. You did.
Q. It continues. First of all, I would like to let all the
friends who intend to invest know that any kind of investment
in the world is risky. There will be risk for investing in
GTV, and there will be potential risk that you may -- that you
have imagined. And Wengui would like to strongly suggest to
all friends who have discussed with Wengui personally about
investing in GTV, or intend to invest in GTV, to please,
please, please, be careful on all the investment activities
before you start investing.
This is one. Please carefully read through all the
documents to be signed for investment, and we must remember all
the information to be filled out on the issue of investment,
and all the funds provided must be legal and real.
Did you see that?
A. Yes.
Q. And I read that correctly?
A. You did.
Q. So Mr. Guo said to please, please, please, carefully read
through the investment documents in this transcript, correct?
A. Investment activities.
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Q. My question is, this is a quote from Mr. Guo, right?
A. Correct. You said please, please, be careful on the
investment documents. It says investment activities.
Q. Is it a fair summary to say of everything that's
highlighted here that he is saying to please, please, please,
be careful. And if you skip two sentences down, please
carefully read through all the documents. Is that fair?
MR. FERGENSON: Objection. It speaks for itself.
THE COURT: The document speaks for itself. He's not
here to interpret the words.
MR. SCHIRICK: Thank you, your Honor.
Q. This selection that's highlighted here didn't make it into
the chart, right?
A. This selection was not on the chart.
Q. Let's please go to page 16 of Government Exhibit C26T. I'm
sorry. Actually, let's start on 15 and then we'll move to 16.
Now, Mr. Medrano, if we refer back to our summary
charts, and we can pull this up for you briefly.
Do you have a paper copy, sir, a paper copy of the --
A. Of Z9?
Q. Yes.
A. Yes.
Q. We're on page three here of the summary chart. Under the
815 mark that's in brackets on page three, do you see the
sentence beginning, You may live in Beijing, Shanghai or
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Taiwan?
A. Yes.
Q. And the next part of the excerpt doesn't pick up until
19:45; is that correct?
A. That's correct.
Q. If we can go back to 26T on page 15, and we'll again just
highlight in red the portions of the text from 26T, which is a
source document that are in the chart.
Mr. Medrano, do you see the language that's
highlighted in red on the screen?
A. Yes, I do.
Q. Is that what is highlighted in the summary chart?
A. Yes, beginning with you.
Q. And then if we see on the right-hand side of your screen in
smaller font there is a passage that begins with, So fellow
fighters. You see that?
A. Yes, I do.
Q. I'm going to read this, and you let me know if I get it
right.
So fellow fighters, with these specific information, I
hope that these can be beneficial to fellow fighters to
understand the basic principles of investment. I just would
like to make a brief explanation, but I will stress this one
more time. Please be sure to read the "prospectus"
"subscription letter" "shareholder agreement" and
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"confidentiality agreement" that are sent to you. Those will
prevail. What I said is not. Don't take what I said as the
standard. Did I read that correctly?
A. Yes, you did.
Q. And again, Mr. Medrano, the part that we just read, that I
just read and that was highlighted on your screen, that was not
included in the government's summary chart, correct?
A. Correct.
Q. Let's take a look at another statement. If we go to page
17 of 26T. And again, Mr. Medrano, what's highlighted in red
here we beginning, We will probably have one or more private
placements this year. Do you see that?
A. Yes.
Q. Does that appear, that language that's highlighted on the
screen, does that appear in the summary chart under the minute
marker 19:45?
A. Yes, it does.
Q. In GXZ9?
A. Yes, it does.
Q. Now, do you see the right-hand side of your screen, the
language that begins, Dear fellow fighters?
A. I do.
Q. Any type of investment is risky?
A. Yes.
Q. I'm going to read that, and again once more you let me know
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if I get it right or wrong.
Dear fellow fighters. Any type of investment is
risky, and there are many types of risks out there. Please be
rationale, think through it, and read through the legal
documents when it comes to investment. This is a brief
investment explanation that Wengui would like to make to
friends, fellow fighters of investment. Please think twice. I
would like to give thanks to all investors and friends, fellow
fighters. Everything has begun.
Did I read that correctly?
A. Yes, you did.
Q. And, Everything has begun is the only part of that passage
that is excerpted in the government's summary chart, correct?
A. Correct.
Q. Now let's turn back to the summary chart itself. Looking
at page six --
MR. SCHIRICK: Your Honor, before we look at the
underlying documents, just one housekeeping issue. Under the
parties' stipulation nine that Mr. Fergenson referred to
earlier this morning, there's a stipulation to admit into
evidence Government Exhibit C63-T which is a translation of 63,
which is a video. And Government Exhibit C220-T which is a
translation of 220 which is a video, so the defense would offer
those documents.
MR. FERGENSON: The government objects. The
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stipulation is that they're offered as government exhibits at
trial, not the defense exhibits.
THE COURT: These were already offered by the
government, correct.
MR. FERGENSON: No, your Honor. There was
authentication. We offered clips from these videos, your
Honor.
THE COURT: Would you step up, please.
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THE COURT: What is it that you're seeking to offer?
MR. SCHIRICK: The parties' have stipulated that these
are correct translations of videos that the parties have also
stiped to the authenticity. The government has offered numerous
both translation -- numerous videos as well as the translations
of various videos. And we're only offering these to go through
with Mr. Medrano parts that were left out by the government
from the summary chart. So it's our position that these are
admissible as government exhibits. Even if we move them in,
alternatively they're admissible under the Rule of
Completeness.
THE COURT: Let me see if I understand. The
government admitted the whole translation?
MR. FERGENSON: No, just clips. There were video
clips and translations of the clips, and that's what we put in
for these two videos, and we did that on agreement. As I noted
for the Court last week, a few days ago, that the defense had
no objection to our entering clips, and they would later may
seek to offer other clips under the rule of completeness. And
we agreed not to object under timeliness, but we didn't have
substantive objections. This is the first I've heard that
they're actually trying to offer the entire video and the
entire translation. That's not how the Rule of Completeness
works. It's to complete a particular statement that has been
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offered by the government. They're just trying to offer in
bulk the full translation which would be hours.
THE COURT: The whole thing or just a portion?
MR. KAMARAJU: Just what's on the stipulation, your
Honor.
MR. SCHIRICK: These have already been stipulated to.
These are the underlying documents. These are the translations.
MR. KAMARAJU: It says at the end admitted by the
government.
MR. FERGENSON: Yes, government exhibits, by the
government, because the government can put in an opposing party
statement by either defendant statement. They can't put in the
defendant statement because he's not an opposing party.
MR. KAMARAJU: The question was, does the government
intend to introduce these statements at any point during trial.
MR. FERGENSON: No, as we agreed, as I discuss with
Mr. Schirick --
MR. KAMARAJU: So this stipulation, Government Exhibit
220, it's the government's position it's never going to move
into evidence 220-T into trial evidence?
MR. FERGENSON: I don't have to commit to it right now
I guess. As I discussed with Mr. Schirick, he was going to tell
us what portions he sought to offer from the full video. This
is the first we heard you're offering the full video and
translation.
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MR. KAMARAJU: We're offering the translation.
MR. FERGENSON: Of the full video. That's exactly
what it is.
THE COURT: Have you not decided whether you're going
to offer the full translation?
MR. FERGENSON: We are not seeking it today at least.
We thought they would discuss with us if they want to offer
more portions of the full translation.
THE COURT: You had a talk about this and your
understanding was that they were going to let you know.
MR. SCHIRICK: That was not our understanding, your
Honor. I don't appreciate that. If that's your position, that
was certainly not clear to us. The government is already
offered portions of these transcripts this morning with
Mr. Medrano. We're only looking to offer other portions.
MR. FERGENSON: That's not how the rule of
completeness works.
THE COURT: They haven't reviewed what you're planning
to offer, yet you knew what they were planning to offer.
MR. SCHIRICK: Your Honor, everyone knows what's in
there because everyone's reviewed them and there is a stip
they're admissible. I don't think it's fair to say they
haven't been reviewed.
THE COURT: These are lengthy documents. Is it that
you need to review before?
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MR. FERGENSON: Correct, your Honor. We need to know
if it is appropriate under the rule of completeness.
THE COURT: That's only fair that they'd be able to
consider what you're claiming should complete the narrative.
MR. FERGENSON: What we did agree, your Honor. We're
not going to object on timeliness or anything like that if they
later seek to offer portions under rule of completeness, but we
may have substantive objections to it that it's not appropriate
under the rule of completeness. If they want to do it later
after we discuss, that's fine.
MR. SCHIRICK: Are we going to bring this witness back
after we go through whether you're going to object to the
additional portions that we're seeking to introduce just to
contextualize the stip that you introduced.
THE COURT: Can you jump to another portion of your
cross examination that does not involve this issue, and then
afterwards at 2:45 the two of you duke it out?
MR. SCHIRICK: If the Court can give me two minutes to
just check my outline to make sure I do have something that is
not impacted.
THE COURT: Go check your outline and come back.
MR. SCHIRICK: Thank you, Judge.
There is one additional video that I plan to cover
that is already in evidence, so I can cover that with the
witness, and we'll, I suppose, just have to reserve the right
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to call Mr. Medrano back after we resolve the completeness
issues.
THE COURT: So he can come back tomorrow. It's not
like he needs to be somewhere, right. Okay.
MR. FERGENSON: Yes.
THE COURT: Okay. Very good.
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(In open court)
BY MR. SCHIRICK:
Q. Can we please pull up Government Exhibit Z11.
Mr. Medrano, this summary chart covers a single
government exhibit. Is that correct?
A. That is correct.
Q. GXW1005?
A. Correct.
Q. Now the chart doesn't show all statements in this video,
correct?
A. Correct.
Q. And the video is actually quite long, right?
A. Correct.
Q. It's actually over two hours long, right?
A. I'm not one hundred percent sure of the entire duration.
Q. But you do know it's quite long?
A. That's correct.
Q. And the government has excerpted in the selected content
column only two sentences, right?
A. On V1, correct, yes.
Q. And then one sentence underneath that; is that right?
A. I believe that is correct, but I can't see.
Q. You see that?
A. I do.
Q. So we have a total of two sentences excerpted from this
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entire two-hour-long video, right?
THE COURT: You can't testify. He hasn't testified
that it was two hours long.
Q. So we have two sentences from this rather long video,
right?
A. Correct.
Q. And the statements that are made here and quoted are not
made by Mr. Guo, right?
A. It does not appear to be Mr. Guo in the video.
Q. These are statements by Mr. Steve Bannon, right? Do you
recognize him?
A. Correct.
Q. And this chart doesn't reflect that this video was related
to a non-profit organization?
A. I only confirm validity of the statement in the chart. I'm
not sure what else was in the video.
Q. Let's take a look at that. Let's take a look at a couple
of excerpts that didn't make it into the government's chart.
Can we please pull up GXW1005 at the 20 minute and five second
mark.
(Media played)
Q. Do you see in the upper left-hand corner of your screen,
Mr. Medrano, a watermark of sorts?
A. Yes.
Q. And what does it say?
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A. Guo Media.
Q. Do you know what Guo Media is?
A. I do not.
Q. Is Mr. Guo attacking the CCP as a totalitarian regime in
this video?
MR. FERGENSON: Objection.
THE COURT: Sustained. So he can't comment on the
content of what the speaker is saying. He can just confirm the
words that are used.
MR. SCHIRICK: Thank you, your Honor.
Q. The chart at GXZ11 doesn't include any part of the video
that we just reviewed, correct?
MR. FERGENSON: Asked and answered.
THE COURT: Sustained.
Q. Let's please queue up the same document GSW1005 at 22:51.
(Media played)
Q. Mr. Medrano, the chart at GXZ11 does not show the statement
that was shown to the jury, correct?
MR. FERGENSON: Objection.
THE COURT: Sustained.
Q. It doesn't show any other statements on this same topic,
does it?
MR. FERGENSON: Asked and answered.
THE COURT: If you can answer the question you may.
A. I only reviewed what was displayed on the government
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exhibits, so I'm not sure what else might have been there.
Q. You can see in this chart that it only contains two
sentences that there are no other statements in this chart
about the CCP, right? That's my question.
A. Correct, what is on this chart is what I reviewed.
Q. Now, with respect to the chart, in the chart the government
has excerpted -- created an excerpt that shows Mr. Bannon
saying that Mr. Guo wants to establish a $100 million fund
called the Rule of Law Fund, right?
A. Yes.
Q. And then on the next page there's a single statement
saying, This is his money?
A. On the next page, yes.
Q. Now, I just want to draw your attention to the timestamps
on those two statements.
A. Yes.
Q. The first one is one hour 16 minutes and 31 seconds is the
end time; is that correct?
A. Correct.
Q. And the next statement begins at 1 hour, 23 minutes and 34
seconds; is that correct?
A. Correct.
Q. So there's actually seven minutes and six seconds between
these statements in the video, correct?
A. Based on the timestamps, correct.
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Q. Would you agree with me that this chart suggests to a
reader that these two statements are connected?
MR. FERGENSON: Objection.
THE COURT: Sustained. That's for the jury to decide.
Q. Let's play the same video beginning at 1:20:28.
And before we do that, Mr. Medrano, you'll note that
if we begin at 1:20:28, that is approximately three minutes
before the statement, This is his money, correct?
A. Yes. I don't have the chart in front of me.
Q. Do you not have GXZ11 the paper copy with you?
A. No.
Q. You can see here. We've displayed it on the screen. So it
starts at 1:23:34?
A. Yes.
Q. And we're going to start the video at 1:20:28. You agree
with me that's about three minutes before this statement that's
in the chart, correct?
A. Correct.
(Media played)
THE COURT: It's now 2:45, so we need to stop.
Members of the jury, we're going to take our break now, and
you'll be returning tomorrow. Remember that you're not allowed
to discuss the case amongst yourselves or with anyone else.
Don't permit anyone else to discuss the case in your presence.
Remember, no researching about anything having to do with this
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case, and no listening to any media reports or any opinions
concerning anything to have to do with this case.
THE LAW CLERK: Jury exiting.
(Jury not present)
THE COURT: You may be seated. Mr. Medrano, you'll be
returning to the courtroom tomorrow at 9:29 to be seated here
at the witness stand again. Remember not to discuss your
testimony. You may leave everything there.
(Witness temporarily excused)
THE COURT: I'd like both sides to see if you can work
out the issue that we discussed at the sidebar. And if you
can't after trying very hard, we can discuss it tomorrow
morning at nine.
MR. FERGENSON: Yes, your Honor.
MR. FINKEL: Your Honor, can we ask the Court one
additional thing. The government was wondering if we could
have until tomorrow Tuesday to file its response to the
reconsideration of your Honor's decision on the expert motion.
It was originally due today.
THE COURT: Yes, that's fine.
MR. FINKEL: Thank you, your Honor.
THE COURT: All righty. Tomorrow, morning at 9:00.
Thank you.
(Adjourned to June 4, 2024, at 9:00 a.m.)
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Examination of: Page
SHAMEL MEDRANO
988Direct By Mr. Fergenson . . . . . . . . . . .
1085Cross By Mr. Schirick . . . . . . . . . . . .
GOVERNMENT EXHIBITS
Exhibit No. Received
992 Stip 8, Stip 11, Stip 12 . . . . . . . . . .
999 W5, W5-V, W49, W68, W115, W115-V, W116; . . .
W122, W123, W123-V, W124,
W160, W162, W164, W164-T,
W165, W167, W171, W175, W177,
W180, W183, W184; W185 through
W187, W189, W190, W193, W198
through W201, W207, W1020,
W1020-V, W1020-T, W1021,
W1021-V, W1021-T, W1024,
W1024-TX, W1024-V1
999 C6-TX, C6-V1, C6-V , C6; C20, C20-TX, . . . .
C20-V1, C20-V2; C40, C40-V;
C43, C43-TX, C43-V1, C40
through C40-V8; C43-V1 through
C43-V8; C55, C55-V; C56,
C56-V, C63-TX, C63-V1 through
C63-V7, C63; C105, C110,
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C123-V
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999 C131, C143, C143-T, C145, C145-T, C146, . . .
C146-TX, C146-V1, C146-V2;
C148, C148-TX, C148-V1 through
C148-V5; C151
999 C160, C160-V; C161, C161-TX, C161-V1 . . . .
through C161-V5; C205, C205-V;
C210, C210-V; C211, C211-V;
C212, C212-V; C220, C220-TX,
C220-V1; C221, C221-V; C252,
C252-V; C253, C253-V; C255,
C255-V; C257, C257-V; C260
through C265, C265-V, C266
through C270, C270-V, C271,
C272, C272-V, C273, C274,
C275, C275-V, C276, C280,
C280-V, C281, C281-V; C300,
C300-V, C301, C301-V; C302,
C302-TX, C302-V1 through
C302-V16; C302-V1 through
C302-V16; C310 through C314;
C320, C321, C321-TX, C321-V1
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C370-V; C371, C371-V1; C373,
C374, C402, C404 through C406,
C406-V; C410, C411, C411-V,
C412 through C419; C422, C423,
C423-V; C424 through C426;
C428, C429, C429-V; C430
through C432, C432-V; C433
through C436; C438 through
C440; C442, C442-V; C443
through C445, C445-V; C446
1000 C459, C459-T, C459-V1 through C459-V3; . . .
C461, C461-V; C462, C463,
C463-V, C464, C480, C481,
C483, C484, C484-A, C491,
C491-V, C500, C500-TX,
C500-V1, C501, C501-TX,
C501-V1; C502, C502-TX,
C502-V1 through C502-V24;
C503, C503-TX, C503-V1 through
C503-V4; C504, C504-TX,
C504-V1 through C504-V13;
C505, C505-V, C505-T; C506,
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C510-V1 through C510-V11;
C511, C511-A, C511-TX, C511-V1
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1000 GTR1, GTR5, GTR8, GTR9, GTR10 through . . . .
GTR17, GTR23, GTR26, GTR27,
GTR27-T, GTR28
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O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第1/74⻚
SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.
(212) 805-0300
美国 纽约南区
联邦地方法院
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美国政府,
控方 23 Cr. 118 (AT)
郭文贵,
辩方
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纽约,纽约州
2024 年 6 月 03 日
上午 9:05
审理法官:阿纳利萨·托雷斯法官,
主审法官
-及陪审团-
出席人员
DAMIAN WILLIAMS
纽约南区联邦检察官
代表: MICAH F. FERGENSON
RYAN B. FINKEL
JUSTIN HORTON
JULIANA N. MURRAY
助理联邦检察官
SABRINA P. SHROFF
被告人律师
PRYOR CASHMAN LLP
被告人律师
【中文翻译 仅供参考】
O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第2/74⻚
SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.
(212) 805-0300
代表: SIDHARDHA KAMARAJU
MATTHEW BARKAN
ALSTON & BIRD LLP
被告人律师
代表: E. SCOTT SCHIRICK
其他在场人员:
Isabel Loftus,联邦检察官办公室律师助理
Robert Stout,联邦调查局特工
Ruben Montilla,被告方律师助理
Tuo Huang,译员(普通话)
Shi Feng,译员(普通话)
Yu Mark Tang,译员(普通话)
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第3/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 (法庭再次开庭，陪审团不在场) 法官说：早上好。 所有律师：早上好，法官。 法官说：请各位律师做一下自我介绍。 费根森律师说：早上好，法官。我是迈卡·费根森，代表政府出庭的还有朱莉安娜·莫里、瑞 安·芬克和贾斯汀·霍顿。我们在律师席上还有助理律师伊莎贝尔·洛夫特斯和杰弗里·米尔恩斯。 舒里克律师说：早上好，法官。我是斯科特·舒里克，代表郭文贵出庭。与我一起的有萨布丽 娜·施洛夫、卡拉马珠律师和巴坎律师，还有郭先生。 法官说：请坐。各方在开始证人证言之前有没有什么需要提出的？ 费根森律师说：法官，我只是想提一下上周提到的问题——我记不清是哪天了——关于为陪 审团和法庭准备的大型总结图表的活页夹。如果在 9:30 之前，我们把活页夹放在椅子下面， 然后一旦它作为证据，我们会请他们从椅子下面拿出来，您觉得可以吗？ 法官说：可以。 费根森律师说：谢谢您，法官。 舒里克律师说：辩方没有其他问题，法官。 谢谢。 法官说：好的。那么在大约 9:29，请把证人带到证人席上。 费根森律师说：好的，法官。 法官说：谢谢。 (休庭) (陪审团在场) 法官说：请坐。早上好，陪审员们。 陪审员们说：早上好。 法官说：欢迎回来。检方可以传唤下一个证人。 费根森律师说：谢谢，法官。政府方传唤沙梅尔·梅德拉诺。 证人说：早上好，法官。 书记官说：梅德拉诺先生，请举起右手。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第4/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 (证人宣誓) 法官说：请说出你的名字并拼写。 证人说：沙梅尔·梅德拉诺。S-H-A-M-E-L，M-E-D-R-A-N-O。 法官说：你可以开始提问了。 费根森律师说：谢谢，法官。 沙梅尔·梅德拉诺，作为政府的证人被叫上来并宣誓后，作如下证言： 费根森律师直接询问： 问：早上好，梅德拉诺先生。 答：早上好。 问：你在哪里工作？ 答：我在纽约南区的美国检察官办公室工作。 问：你在美国检察官办公室的职位是什么？ 答：我是调查分析员。 问：作为美国检察官办公室的调查分析员，你的一些职责和责任是什么？ 答：我的一些职责，包括协助社交媒体分析—— 书记官说：梅德拉诺先生，请把麦克风拉近一些并提高声音。 证人说：当然，好的。 书记官说：谢谢。 答：所以我的职责包括协助社交媒体分析，分析电话，还有商业记录。这取决于案件的性质。 问：你在美国检察官办公室做调查分析员多久了？ 答：大约四年半到五年�� 问：在此之前你做什么？ 答：我在布朗克斯区检察官办公室做情报分析员。 问：你在布朗克斯区检察官办公室做情报分析员多久了？ 答：两年半到三年。 问：现在，梅德拉诺先生，除了今天的证言和为这次证言做准备外，你在这个案件中还有什 么参与？
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第5/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 答：我协助保留了一些公开来源的社交媒体和网页。 问：你是如何从互联网上保留这些东西的？ 答：取决于材料的类型，我使用了截图工具，还使用了视频下载器，还有一种单文件 HTML 保留工具。 问：梅德拉诺先生，我只想说——声音可能有点难听清——如果可以，请尽量把麦克风拉近 些。 答：好的。 问：尽量清晰地说话。 答：抱歉。我会靠近些。 问：谢谢。梅德拉诺先生，是你决定从互联网上保存什么吗？ 答：不是。 问：你在这个案件中做了任何调查步骤的决定吗？ 答：没有。 问：谁做了这些决定？ 答：检察官。 问：是谁让你从互联网上保存这些东西的？ 答：检察官。 问：我也是那些检察官之一吗？ 答：是的。 问：好的。那么，梅德拉诺先生，在你作证之前，有没有要求你查看某些政府证物并帮助总 结其中的信息？ 答：有。 问：你是否帮助准备或核查了一些总结图表的准确性？ 答：是的。 问：这些图表都是基于大量记录吗？ 答：是的。 问：这些图表是基于什么类型的证物？
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第6/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 答：它们是社交媒体证物。还有来自网页地址的网页，也有一些视频。 问：谁决定了你查看哪些证物以及在图表中包括哪些信息？ 答：检察官。 问：你有没有机会对图表进行修订以确保其准确性？ 答：有。 问：你对图表进行了修订吗？ 答：是的，我做了。 问：在你修订图表之后，它们现在都准确吗？ 答：是的。 问：再次确认一下，你是查看了这个案件中所有的证据还是仅仅查看了图表和这些图表所基 于的证物？ 答：仅仅是图表和这些图表所基于的证物。 问：谁选择了放入图表的证物？ 答：检察官。 问：谁选择了这些证物中要放入图表的信息？ 答：检察官。 问：你对此有任何决定权吗？ 答：没有。 问：可以说你只是确认了图表是准确的吗？ 答：是的。 舒里克律师说：反对。 费根森律师说：法官，现在—— 法官说：等一下。反对无效。 费根森律师说：法官，现在政府将提供几份双方之间的协议作为政府证物。提供政府证物协 议 8，S-T-I-P 8，以及政府证物协议 11 和协议 12。 法官说：它们被接受了。 (政府的证物协议 8，协议 11，协议 12 被接受到证据集)
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第7/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 费根森律师说：好的。现在，洛夫特斯女士，如果我们可以简要展示一些协议。我们将从政 府证物协议 2 开始，它已被作为证物。如果它还没有被公布，我们可以公布它。我会读一下 简介。各方特此同意：在下面的图表中，A、B 和 C 列准确列出了以下信息：A 列中列出的 政府证物是从互联网上保存的网页的真实副本。如果网页包含了也被保存的视频，相关视频 在政府证物名称中标有“-V”。例如，GX C20 是网页的保存副本，GX C20-V 是该网页上视频 的保存副本。图表中的 B 列列出了保存的网页地址（或“网址”）。C 列列出了网页保存的日 期。洛夫特斯女士，请您翻几页，让大家有个大致的了解。或许我们可以一直翻到底。 费根森律师提问：梅德拉诺先生，你能看到这个协议有多少页吗？ 证人：能。 问：多少页？ 答：25页。 费根森律师说：好的。我们来看下一个协议条款。洛夫特斯女士，请公布政府证物协议 8。 好的，这是关于文件的协议条款，现在已作为证据。我会读一下简介。各方特此同意：B 列 中列出的证物是政府依法获取的，并且是 A 列中列出的实体的真实记录，这些记录是在或接 近记录时间由了解记录中所述事项的人制作或传输的信息；这些记录是在经常进行的活动中 保存的；该实体通常会制作这些记录。洛夫特斯女士，请往下翻。好的，这样就行，稍微往 上翻一点。 费根森律师提问：梅德拉诺先生，你在顶部看到其中一个是 Gettr USA, Inc.吗？ 答：是的。 费根森律师说：好的。我们来看下一个协议，洛夫特斯女士。请展示政府证物协议 9。好的， 这是关于 GX C 证物翻译的协议条款。各方同意在下面的图表中，A 列中列出的证物包含外 语的音频或文本。B列中列出的证物是 A列中证物的真实准确翻译。 费根森律师提问：梅德拉诺先生，你看到B列中的证物只是给A列中的证物加了一个“-T”吗？ 答：正确。 费根森律师说：好的。我们来看下一个协议。请展示政府证物协议 11，洛夫特斯女士。好的， 我不会读这个，但这是另一份协议。如果可以，往上翻一点，洛夫特斯女士。对不起。这是 关于 GX W 和 GX GTR 证物翻译的另一份协议。洛夫特斯女士，现在请展示政府证物协议
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第8/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 12。好的。这是关于视频片段的协议。各方特此同意在下面的图表中，A、B、C 和 D列准确 列出了以下信息：我会读一下简介，请往下翻一下，让我们看看图表。好的。在下面的图表 中——对不起，我读过了。A 列中列出的政府证物是从互联网上保存的完整视频的真实副本。 B 列中列出的政府证物是 A 列中政府证物的部分（视频片段）的真实副本。C 列列出了 B 列 中视频片段的时间戳。D 列中列出的政府证物包含 B 列中视频片段音频的准确翻译。请往下 翻几页。谢谢，洛夫特斯女士。我们可以拿下来。法官大人，这些协议是为了认证。我现在 要申请一长串证物的提交。如果可以的话，我有一份打印的副本供法庭参考。 法官说：好的。 费根森律师说：好的，那么现在政府申请提交以下 GX W系列的证物。这些都是W系列的证 物：5，5-V，49，68，115，115-V，116；还有 122，123，123-V，124，160，162，164， 164-T，165，167，171，175，177，180，183，184。实际上是 185至 187，189 和 190， 193，198 至 201，207，还有 1020，1020-V，1020-T，1021，1021-V，1021-T，1024， 1024-TX，1024-V1。好的。现在我有几份 C系列的证物，GX C系列证物。6-TX，6-V1，6- V2，还有 6；20，20-TX，20-V1，20-V2；40，40-V；43，43-TX，43-V1，40至V8；所以 43-V1至 43-V8；55，55-V；56，56-V，63-TX，63-V1至 V7；还有 GX C63；GX C105， 110，110-TX，110-V1，121，121-V，122，122-V，123，123-V。抱歉乱了顺序，我其实 跳过了一个，就是 GX C120 和 120-V。接下来是 131，143 和 143-T，145 和 145-T，146 和 146-TX，146-V1 和 V2；148，148-TX，148-V1至 V5；151。 法官说：你要提交 148-V吗？ 费根森律师说：实际上没有，法官大人。 法官说：好的。 费根森律师说：我想那是误列进去的。151，160，160-V；161，和 161-TX，161-V1 至 V5； 205 和 205-V；210 和 210-V；211 和 211-V；212 和 212-V；220，220-TX，220-V1；221 和 221-V；252，252-V；253，253-V；255，255-V；257，257-V；260 到 265 以及 265-V， 266 到 270，以及 270-V，271，272，272-V，273，274，275，275-V，276，280，280-V， 281，281-V；300，300-V，301，301-V；302，302-TX，302-V1 到 V16，也就是 302-V1 到 302-V16；310 到 314；320，321，321-TX，321-V1 到 V6；322，322-TX，322-V1 到
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第9/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 V9；351，351-V；370，370-V；371，371-V1；373，374，402，404 到 406，还有 406- V；410，411，411-V，412 到 419；422，423，423-V；424 到 426；428，429，429-V； 430 到 432，432-V；433 到 436；438 到 440；442，442-V；443 到 445，和 445-V；446。 459，459-T，459-V1 到 V3；461，461-V；462，463，463-V，464，480，481，483， 484，484-A，491，491-V，500，500-TX，500-V1，501，501-TX，501-V1；502，502- TX，502-V1 到 V24；503，503-TX，503-V1 到 V4；504，504-TX，504-V1 到 V13；505， 505-V，505-T；506，506-TX，506-V1 到 V6；510，510-TX，510-V1 到 V11；511，511- A，511-TX，511-V1 到 V7。这就结束了 C 系列。现在我还有几个 GTR 系列的证物：GX GTR1，5，8，9，10 到 17，23，26，27，27-T，和 28。就这些。 舒里克律师说：无异议。 法官说：所以它们都被接纳了。 (政府证物 W5, W5-V, W49, W68, W115, W115-V, W116; W122, W123, W123-V, W124, W160, W162, W164, W164-T, W165, W167, W171, W175, W177, W180, W183, W184; W185 到W187, W189, W190, W193, W198 到W201, W207, W1020, W1020-V, W1020-T, W1021, W1021-V, W1021-T, W1024, W1024-TX, W1024-V1已被接纳为证据) (政府证物 C6-TX, C6-V1, C6-V, C6; C20, C20-TX, C20-V1, C20-V2; C40, C40-V; C43, C43- TX, C43-V1, C40 到 C40-V8; C43-V1 到 C43-V8; C55, C55-V; C56, C56-V, C63-TX, C63-V1 到 C63-V7, C63; C105, C110, C110-TX, C110-V1, C121, C121-V, C122, C122-V, C123, C123-V已被接纳为证据) (政府证物 C120 和 C120-V已被接纳为证据) (政府证物 C131, C143, C143-T, C145, C145-T, C146, C146-TX, C146-V1, C146-V2; C148, C148-TX, C148-V1 到 C148-V5; C151已被接纳为证据) (政府证物C160, C160-V; C161, C161-TX, C161-V1 到 C161-V5; C205, C205-V; C210, C210- V; C211, C211-V; C212, C212-V; C220, C220-TX, C220-V1; C221, C221-V; C252, C252-V; C253, C253-V; C255, C255-V; C257, C257-V; C260 到 C265, C265-V, C266 到 C270, C270- V, C271, C272, C272-V, C273, C274, C275, C275-V, C276, C280, C280-V, C281, C281-V; C300, C300-V, C301, C301-V; C302, C302-TX, C302-V1 到 C302-V16; C302-V1 到 C302-
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第10/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 V16; C310 到 C314；C320, C321, C321-TX, C321-V1 到 C321-V6; C322, C322-TX, C322- V1 到 C322-V9; C351, C351-V; C370, C370-V; C371, C371-V1; C373, C374, C402, C404 到 C406, C406-V; C410, C411, C411-V, C412 到 C419; C422, C423, C423-V; C424 到 C426; C428, C429, C429-V; C430 到 C432, C432-V; C433 到 C436; C438 到 C440; C442, C442-V; C443 到 C445, C445-V; C446已被接纳为证据) (政府证物 C459, C459-T, C459-V1 到 C459-V3; C461, C461-V; C462, C463, C463-V, C464, C480, C481, C483, C484, C484-A, C491, C491-V, C500, C500-TX, C500-V1, C501, C501- TX, C501-V1; C502, C502-TX, C502-V1 到 C502-V24; C503, C503-TX, C503-V1 到 C503- V4; C504, C504-TX, C504-V1 到 C504-V13; C505, C505-V, C505-T; C506, C506-TX, C506- V1 到 C506-V6; C510, C510-TX, C510-V1 到 C510-V11; C511, C511-A, C511-TX, C511-V1 到 C511-V7已被接纳为证据) (政府证物 GTR1, GTR5, GTR8, GTR9, GTR10 到 GTR17, GTR23, GTR26, GTR27, GTR27- T, GTR28已被接纳为证据) 费根森律师说：谢谢，法官。 费根森律师问：好的。梅德拉诺先生，你说你准备了一些总结图表，对吗？ 答：对的。 费根森律师说：洛夫特斯女士，首先，请展示给梅德拉诺先生 GX Z11。 问：好的。梅德拉诺先生，这是其中一个图表吗？ 答：是的。 问：你查看了这个图表所基于的所有证物吗？ 答：是的。 问：这个图表准确吗？ 答：是的。 费根森律师说：政府提供政府证物 Z11。 舒里克律师说：没有异议。 法官说：被接受为证物。 (政府证物 Z11已被接纳为证据)
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第11/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 费根森律师说：我们来看另一个。洛夫特斯女士，请展示 Z9。只是给证人看。 费根森律师提问：好的。梅德拉诺先生，这是什么证物？ 答：这是 GX——总结图表上的证物还是—— 问：这是你审查过的另一个总结图表吗？ 答：是的，对。 问：你查看了这个图表所基于的所有证物吗？ 答：是的。 问：这个图表准确吗？ 答：是的。 费根森律师说：政府提供 Z9。 舒里克律师说：没有异议。 法官说：已被接纳为证据。 (政府证物 Z9已被接纳为证据) 费根森律师说：如果可以公布，洛夫特斯女士。法官，我们也可以公布这个证据的纸质版吗？ 法官说：可以。 费根森律师说：女士们先生们，如果你们看看你们椅子下方，有一本包含政府证物 Z9 的活页 夹。好的。洛夫特斯女士，请把顶部放大——完美。谢谢。 费根森律师说：好的。梅德拉诺先生，总的来说，这个图表里有什么？ 答：所以我会从左到右开始解释。这个图表显示了日期、来源，所以日期表示你在证据中找 到的来源发布或公布的日期。在这个例子中，该日期为 2020 年 4 月 18 日。然后是来源，表 示它来自哪里，在哪个网页地址找到的。然后是选择内容，表示从来源中显示的内容。所以 如果你去那个网页地址，会看到其中的一些内容。 然后是 GX，表示与该特定来源对应的政府证物。 问：总的来说，这个图表中包括哪些类型的证物？ 答：有视频、保存的网页、网页和视频的翻译，还有一些我认为是来自 Gettr 的搜查令材料。 问：在所选择的列中，这些内容是你选择的吗，梅德拉诺先生？ 答：不是。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第12/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 问：你在选择这一列中包含或不包含哪些内容时，有任何选择权吗？ 答：没有。 问：谁有？ 答：检察官。 问：在所选的列中，梅德拉诺先生，那些所选的内容是政府证物的全部文本还是只是其中的 一部分？ 答：是其中选出的一部分。 法官说：你说的选择内容是指摘录吗？ 费根森律师说：是的。哦，梅德拉诺先生？ 证人：正确，是的。 法官说：我想弄清楚你在被询问时使用这个词的含义。 费根森律师说：哦，法官大人，没错。 法官说：继续。 费根森律师说：谢谢。 费根森律师提问：好的。那么，梅德拉诺先生，我们来看第一个例子。日期是什么？ 答：2020 年 4 月 18 日。 问：日期是来自所选内容的哪个部分？ 答：在所选内容中，你会看到一个屏幕截图，其中的标题写着“郭文贵”和一个日期，写着 20200418，这就是日期的来源。 问：这个域名是什么？ 答：Gnews.org。 问：梅德拉诺先生，你对 gnews.org 有什么独立的了解吗？ 答：没有。 问：那—— 费根森律师说：洛夫特斯女士，请稍微往下翻一点。 问：梅德拉诺先生，你说在选择内容中，你把图像描述为一个截图。是什么样的截图？ 答：是整个网页的一小部分的截图。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第13/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 问：下面的文本是从哪里取来的？ 答：从同一个来源取来的。 问：从网页？ 答：从网页，是的。 法官说：你说的截图是指静态照片吗？ 证人：正确，就像用一个截图工具截取的网页照片。 法官说：谢谢。 问：梅德拉诺先生，请你读一下第一段。 答：好的。“ 直到现在，没有人能理解 G-TV、G-News 它们未来的价值和意义。我可以告诉大家，咱们走 着瞧。G-TV和 G-News未来会让所有的战友得到回报。有钱，有未来，有安全，有智慧，有 人的尊严，有事业，有平台，没有钱你怎么能得到你想要的？” 费根森律师说：洛夫特斯女士，请稍微往上翻一点。 问：这是 GX W184吗？ 答：是的。 费根森律师说：洛夫特斯女士，我们有W184吗？好的。请展示一下。 问：好的，梅德拉诺先生，我们看到的是什么？ 答：这是保存的整个网页的 HTML。 问：是谁保存的？ 答：我保存的。 费根森律师说：洛夫特斯女士，请稍微往下翻一点。继续翻。 问：好的，梅德拉诺先生，这整个文本没有放在图表里，对吗？ 答：对。 费根森律师说：好的，请回到顶部，洛夫特斯女士。哦，对不起。就这个证物的顶部。 问：你描述它是一个截图，梅德拉诺先生，截取的是什么部分？ 答：顶部部分，就是你看到网页名称的部分，写着“郭文贵 20200418”的地方，正下方是郭文 贵和一个V形图标。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第14/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 问：V形图标，你对V形图标的理解是什么？ 答：根据我的理解，应该是指有待验证。 费根森律师说：好的。请回到 Z9，洛夫特斯女士。 问：好的，梅德拉诺先生，这个图表中的条目，一般来说是按时间顺序排列吧？ 答：是的。 问：这个图表有多少页？ 答：209页。 费根森律师说：洛夫特斯女士，请翻到第 206页。 问：这个条目的日期是什么，梅德拉诺先生？ 答：2023 年 3 月 5 日。 费根森律师说：洛夫特斯女士，请回到第 1页。 问：第一个条目是什么时候？ 答：2020 年 4 月 18 日。 问：所以我们从 2020 年 4 月到 2023 年 3 月？ 答：对的。 费根森律师说：好的。洛夫特斯女士，请稍微往下翻到页面右下角。继续翻。 问：好的，梅德拉诺先生，你看到右下角有一个数字 1吗？ 答：看到了。 问：那是什么？ 答：页码。 问：好的。 费根森律师说：洛夫特斯女士，请再往下翻一点，我们到第 61页。陪审员们，你们可以看对 应的纸质文件。我们——好的。可以稍微往上翻一下。好的。我想展示 GX C302，洛夫特斯 女士。好的。抱歉，是第 62页。 费根森律师提问： 问：好的，梅德拉诺先生，这个条目的日期是什么？ 答：2021 年 2 月 28 日。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第15/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 问：这是在哪里发布的？ 答：在 gtv.org 上。 问：所选内容中的图像是从哪里取来的？ 答：从视频中。 问：现在请注意右侧的列，梅德拉诺先生，那列列出了 GXs，对吗？ 答：是的。 问：就标着 302 的那个，政府证物 302 是什么？ 答：那是网页。如果你访问那个网址，看到的就是那个网页。 问：然后下面那个“-V”的标记是什么？ 答：“-V”是从那个网址找到的视频。就是那个完整的视频。 问：完整的视频？ 答：视频，完整的视频，对。 问：再往下跳一个，V1 到 V16 是什么证物？ 答：那些是原始视频的摘录，也就是 302 的视频摘录。 问：这些是视频片段？ 答：对。 问：好的。然后上面那个 302-TX是什么证物？ 答：那是视频的翻译。 问：视频片段的翻译？ 答：对。 问：好的。梅德拉诺先生，你查看的一些视频有字幕吗？ 答：有。 问：这个视频有字幕吗？ 答：没有。 问：你认为这些视频是什么语言的？ 答：我认为是普通话。 问：这些视频有多长？
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第16/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 答：几个小时。两到三小时，甚至更长。 问：好的。现在我不会展示所有的摘录。 费根森律师说：洛夫特斯女士，请翻到第 67页。我想展示V15。好的。洛夫特斯女士，请展 示政府证物V15并播放。能把音量调高一点吗？ (视频播放) 费根森律师说：好的。洛夫特斯女士，请把音量调静音，再播放一遍。 费根森律师提问： 问：梅德拉诺先生，使用你的活页夹，请你读一下 V15 下面的文本。 答：好的。 法官说：这是哪一页？ 费根森律师说：这是第 67页，法官。 法官说：继续。 答：“让我再说一次，今天你们有机会参与 GTV和 G Coin 的事情绝无仅有。这是我的保证。 这样的机会永远不会再有。七哥辛苦一生。我懂政治，我懂金融，我懂赚大钱。你们不明白。 我给你们解释，你们也不明白。兄弟姐妹们，你们要相信七哥。如果你们赔了钱，你们不会 为此买单。我来买单。 你们投入的钱，说实话，我的任何一套房子都值数亿美元，属于我们家的，对吧？我们家现 在控制的股票在日本、台湾和欧洲国家值数亿或数十亿美元，我投资的基金值数十亿美元， 对吧？我的好朋友们拥有他们的国家。马云对我来说算什么？他对我来说什么都不是，我最 好的朋友地下资产价值连城。你们是谁？对吧？告诉你们，‘七哥’见过的，你们再也不会有这 样的机会了。不要让贫穷拖累你的智商。你的情商可以被降低，但智商不能被降低。你们永 远不会有像 G Coin 和 GTV 这样的机会。” 问：好的，梅德拉诺先生，这是 2021 年 2 月，对吗？ 答：对。 问：所以我想回到图表的前面，时间更早的地方。 费根森律师说：洛夫特斯女士，请翻到 C26。抱歉，第 2页。 问：梅德拉诺先生，这个条目的日期是什么？
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第17/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 答：2020 年 4 月 20 日。 问：这是从哪里下载的？ 答：从 YouTube。 问：看选择内容下面的文本，第一行是什么？ 答：“当你看到这个视频时，它不是公开视频。” 问：这是从 YouTube 下载的？ 答：对。 费根森律师说：好的。洛夫特斯女士，请展示 C26-V。在此之前。 问：梅德拉诺先生，这个视频有字幕吗？ 答：有。 问：你能读一下截图上的字幕吗？ 答：好的。首先是王雁平，大家都知道。 费根森律师说：洛夫特斯女士，请播放 C26-V。 费根森律师提问： 问：梅德拉诺先生，你说这个视频是 2020 年 4 月的，对吗？ 答：对的。 问：我们先看的那个视频是 2021 年 2 月的？ 答：对的。 问：我们现在观看的这个大约是十个月前的，对吗？ 答：对的。 问：在 2021 年 2 月的视频中，有人说到风险了吗？ 答：说没有风险。 问：而在这个视频中，演讲者刚才说了什么关于风险的事情？ 答：抱歉。 问：没关系，梅德拉诺先生。撤回这个问题。洛夫特斯女士，我们继续播放视频吧。 费根森律师说：请暂停。 问：梅德拉诺先生，你对 Max有任何独立了解吗？
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第18/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 答：没有。 问：我们继续播放，洛夫特斯女士。 （视频播放） 问：好的，洛夫特斯女士，可以暂停。梅德拉诺先生，屏幕上写的是什么？ 答：这个视频是逐个发送给你的。 问：提醒一下，这是从哪里保存的？ 答：YouTube。 问：洛夫特斯女士，请回到图表。如果可以，稍微往下翻。梅德拉诺先生，请读一下 933 下 面的文本。 答：好的。私人配售意味着我们是朋友。我可以一对一，或一对几地向你们介绍这个项目进 行投资。我不能在媒体或大型公共媒体上进行大量宣传。 问：洛夫特斯女士，请稍微往下翻。梅德拉诺先生，请读一下下一段摘录。 答：原本我们计划每个人设置一个 10,000 美元的门槛，但我们不得不调整，因为有太多人， 因为人数有限。投资金额不限。我们已将门槛从 10,000 美元调整到 100,000 美元。但由于法 治基金的支持者优先，我们为一些人破例，允许他们即使投资少于 100,000 美元也能投资 GTV，但决定权和控制权在我们手中。 问：请读下一段。 答：但这次我们拒绝了许多机构投资者，他们要求投资数百万、数千万和数亿美元。我们这 次主要允许我们的朋友投资；因此，配额有限，门槛从 100,000 美元到无限。 然后我也希望我们的投资者朋友和战友们知道，这家公司是在美国注册的。GTV 是一家新公 司，从你看到视频的 24小时内开始 IPO。 问：这是 2020 年 4 月 20 日，对吗，梅德拉诺先生？ 答：对的。 问：洛夫特斯女士，我们翻到第六页。关注屏幕上的条目，梅德拉诺先生，这个条目的日期 是什么？ 答：2020 年 6 月 2 日。 问：大约一个半月之后？
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第19/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 答：对的。 问：这是从哪里下载的？ 答：YouTube。 问：洛夫特斯女士，请播放 V1。播放几秒钟后，可以静音。梅德拉诺先生，请从你的活页夹 中读一下 V1 下的摘录。 答：好的。 （视频播放） 答：我们对 GTV 进行了初步评估，估值为 2亿美元，私人配售要求最低投资额为 2000万美 元。私人配售超出了最高预期，筹集了 3.5亿美元。 目前这个数字大约是 3.6亿美元，就说是 3.5亿美元。这 3.5亿美元不包括来自 VOG 的 1.17 亿美元。如果 1.17 亿加上 3.5亿美元，这超过 4.8亿美元，几乎接近 5亿美元。但目前我们 收到的 3.5亿美元只是 GTV的合同。��证明是一个保守估计，估值为 17.5倍。考虑到对GTV 股份的巨大需求和 GTV 未来的良好资本状况，我的律师和财务专家一致认为，20 亿美元的 估值可能过低，公司实际价值可能接近 100亿美元，考虑到对GTV股份的巨大需求。我的战 友们，你们明白了吗？你们的股票已经从过去的 2000 万美元增长到现在的实际金额的 17.5 倍。不包括 Sara 的 1.17 亿美元，也就是 VOG 的那部分。如果加上那个，应该接近 30倍， 大约是 27到 30倍。同时，这家公司从过去的 20亿美元增长到 100亿美元。 问：洛夫特斯女士，请回到图表，翻到下一页，第七页，不需要播放视频。梅德拉诺先生， 请读一下 V4 下的文本。实际上，你不需要全部读。 洛夫特斯女士，可以拿下来。从段落中间开始读，从“同时”开始，请。 答：好的。同时，正如我们的战友们所知，我们的 G Dollar 和 G Coin，这个系统的预售将立 即开始，并将在三个月内完全上线运行。然后是由我们的喜联储发行的稳定币，HIFED，以 及我们的 G Fashion 和 G News、GTV共同使用的 G Coin将在三个月内完全上线。我们的 G News可能在三个月内进入私人配售阶段。G News、G Fashion、G Mall、G Pay、G Club 和 GTV 将在三到四个月内全面运营。 问：洛夫特斯女士，请翻到下一页。梅德拉诺先生，请读一下 V7下的文本。 答：好的。在这次 GTV投资中，我与每位投资者进行了单独对话。这是郭文贵对你的一个严
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第20/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 肃而庄重的承诺和责任。对这项投资永远负责，这是一个合法有效的承诺和态度。 问：这是 2020 年 6 月 2 日，对吗？ 答：对的。 问：洛夫特斯女士，请翻到下一页，第九页。梅德拉诺先生，关注屏幕上的条目，这个条目 的日期是什么？ 答：2020 年 6 月 17日。 问：这是从哪里保存的？ 答：GTV.org。 问：你对 GTV.org 有什么独立了解吗？ 答：没有。 问：选择内容列中的照片是从哪里来的？ 答：来自视频。 问：洛夫特斯女士，请播放 C2020-V1。请播放全部内容。 （视频播放） 问：洛夫特斯女士，可以再播放一次，并静音。梅德拉诺先生，请从你的活页夹中读一下 V1 下的文本。 答：好的。今天有人发行了股票。一些人已经开始交易这些股票。价格是多少？刚才，两三 个小时前，一个战友卖了 1 万股，每股 18 美元，交易已经完成。但我们的投资委员会不满 意，想全部回购，每股 20 美元。 问：梅德拉诺先生，如果股票起初是 1 美元，现在是 20 美元，增长了多少倍？ 答：20倍。 舒里克律师说：反对。 法官说：反对无效。我认为他可以做算术。 舒里克律师说：基础，法官。 问：我们回到图表上。请翻到第 30页，稍微往下翻。梅德拉诺先生，关注屏幕上的条目，这 个条目的日期是什么？ 答：2020 年 8 月 1 日。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第21/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 问：这是从哪里保存的？ 答：GTV.org。 问：这个视频有字幕吗？ 答：有。 问：梅德拉诺先生，选择内容列下这个视频的文本是从哪里来的？ 答：来自视频。 问：字幕？ 答：对的。 问：在播放视频之前，请你读一下日期右侧截图中的文本。 答：好的。一旦中共的应用程序被全部禁止，GTV和 G News 不赚钱是不可能的。 问：请读一下静态图像中的字幕。 答：关于 G Fashion，我们将立即启动，金额为 1000亿美元。 问：洛夫特斯女士，请播放政府证物 C121-V。当开始播放后，我会请您跳到 1分 24秒。 好的，洛夫特斯女士。 (视频播放) 问：可以暂停。洛夫特斯女士，请回到图表页面。现在请翻到第 32页。梅德拉诺先生，最后 一个视频的日期是 2020 年 8 月 1 日，对吗？ 答：对的。 问：这个条目的日期是什么？ 答：2020 年 8 月 2 日。 问：这是从哪里下载的？ 答：YouTube。 问：这个视频有字幕吗？ 答：没有。 问：洛夫特斯女士，请翻到第 33 页。请播放 C43-V5。我们可以静音。梅德拉诺先生，请从
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第22/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 你的活页夹中读出 C43-V5 下的文本。 答：为什么共产党突然这么害怕我们？不就是看着我们发财吗？不就是看着我们赚大钱吗？ 他害怕。他不希望我们赚大钱。他不让我们的战友赚这么多钱。GTV 价值多少？当然，这是 美国的法律，市值 20亿美元。现在需要市场交易，可能达到 200亿美元。GFashion 上市时 是 1000 亿美元，对吧？这是美国的法律。如果你想在美国做一些假的东西，那你就是在找 死，所以共产党害怕。G Coin 和 G Dollar正在改变人类的生活。 问：洛夫特斯女士，请回到图表。请翻到第 61 页。抱歉，是第 62 页。梅德拉诺先生，我们 播放的第一个片段来自这个视频，对吗？ 答：对的。 问：提醒一下日期？ 答：2021 年 2 月 28 日。 问：所以我们距离 2020 年 4 月的第一个视频大约十个月，对吗？ 答：是的。 问：我们来看这个视频的更多片段。洛夫特斯女士，请翻到第 64页，请稍微往上翻一点。梅 德拉诺先生，我要请你再读一下 V7 下的文本，请从第二段开头读起，一直到“如果我们亏钱， 全怪七哥”。 答：是的。然后我们的 G News，我们的 GTV，我们的 G Fashion，最重要的是全人类都在 走向加密货币、虚拟货币的时代，你们都看到了。这一切都在这么短的时间内发生了。它们 的未来价值非常有前景，有资源。预计的价值和我们的高效低成本运营。我今天在这里敢说， 我们不会亏一分钱。告诉我，谁做生意敢说你不会亏一分钱？我可以。如果我们亏钱，全怪 七哥。 问：稍微往下翻一下，定位到 V8。洛夫特斯女士，请播放 V8。播放后，梅德拉诺先生，我 会请你开始读其中的一部分。洛夫特斯女士，可以带声音播放。 （视频播放） 问：洛夫特斯女士，请再播放一次并且静音。梅德拉诺先生，请从你的活页夹中读出文本， 从“我们不会亏一分钱”开始读。 法官说：请告诉我们具体位置。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第23/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 费根森律师说：是的，法官。我认为是在第 64页。洛夫特斯女士，你想快速调出图表。这是 第二段下面的第四行，法官。谢谢，洛夫特斯女士。 费根森律师提问： 问：梅德拉诺先生，请继续阅读到段落结束。 答：好的。我们不可能亏钱，怎么可能呢？如果我们的战友亏了钱，七哥会负责。七哥会负 责。我甚至可以为你写下来。如果你亏了钱，七哥会负责，利润是你的。这只是你赚多少钱 和什么时候赚到的问题。只是时间和利润的问题。 问：洛夫特斯女士，请回到图表，并稍微往下翻到 V10。梅德拉诺先生，请读一下 V10 下面 的第一句话。 答：好的。仅仅通过 GTV的投资，我们目前已筹集了超过 4亿美元，而且我们还没有花一分 钱。 问：洛夫特斯女士，我们来看另一个视频。请翻到图表中的第 76页。梅德拉诺先生，这个条 目的日期是什么？ 答：2021 年 3 月 30 日。 问：大约一个月后？ 答：对的。 问：这是从哪里获取的？ 答：GTV.org。 问：这个视频有字幕吗？ 答：没有。 问：洛夫特斯女士，请翻到第78页和 79页。梅德拉诺先生，我要请你关注 V4。洛夫特斯女 士，请播放政府证物 C161-V4。 (视频播放) 问：洛夫特斯女士，可以暂停。梅德拉诺先生，请从你的活页夹中读一下V4 下面的两段，第 79页的顶部开始。第一句话应该是“目前计划如昨天所定”。 舒里克律师说：反对。 法官说：反对有效。你是要求他从“目前”开始读吗？
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第24/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 费根森律师说：对的，法官。 法官说：继续。 答：目前计划为昨天。我们知道可能会有 600 亿美元的投资，600 亿美元的评估。我觉得太 高了，所以我想把它降到 200 亿美元。对于剩下的 400 亿美元，我们将为第二轮融资留出空 间。如果按 600 亿美元上市，还有很长的路要走。我认为 200 亿美元足够了，同志们。不要 太贪心，好吗？你应该为其他战友留一些好处，因为他们加入时会有快速增长的空间。如果 你用完了所有 600 亿美元的价值，未来三到五年的价值会被用完，这些股份会被你们拿走， 这不公平。你们已经富有了。 问：洛夫特斯女士，请回到图表。如果可以，请翻到第 98页。梅德拉诺先生，这个条目的日 期是什么？ 答：2021 年 5 月 30 日。 问：这是从哪里发布的？ 答：G News.org。 问：在截图中，这是一个视频还是文章？ 答：这是文章。 问：在文章的截图中，请读一下标题。 答：好的。2021 年 5 月 30 日郭文贵先生直播的要点。 问：请读一下所选内容中的前三句话。 答：好的。新 GTV 公司将发行 600 亿美元的股份。原始的战友投资者将每 1 美元投资获得 10股。不要太贪心。 问：梅德拉诺先生，这里说每 1 美元投资获得 10股，对吗？ 答：对的。 问：洛夫特斯女士，我们现在继续翻页。请翻到第 115 页。如果可以，请翻到另一个视频。 梅德拉诺先生，这个条目的日期是什么？ 答：2021 年 8 月 11 日。 问：这是从哪里发布的？ 答：YouTube。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第25/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 问：洛夫特斯女士，请播放V1。播放后，梅德拉诺先生，我会请你读一下文本。 （视频播放） 问：请回到第 115页的图表。梅德拉诺先生，请读一下这一页的文本。 答：好的。Louis Vuitton，Louis Vuitton 只值 164 亿美元。你看，这些品牌的市值都在 200 亿美元左右，包括爱马仕，只值 130 亿到 140 亿美元，不太大，几乎没有哪个品牌超过—— 卡地亚值 150亿美元。记住，前十大品牌的总价值约为 200亿美元，一般在 130亿到 200亿 美元之间。为什么，为什么，为什么，为什么，它们这么统一？然后看看香奈儿，值 137 亿 美元，接近 130亿美元，对吧？这些市场价值都在 130亿到 200亿美元之间，这些前十大品 牌的来源。如果你看爱马仕，它只值 119 亿美元。不算高。甚至比香奈儿还少。你注意到了 吗？你注意到了吗？劳力士值78亿美元，约 80亿美元，对吧？它只值 80亿美元，只有我们 GTV市值的 1/5或 1/6。 问：梅德拉诺先生，再一个算术问题。如果 80亿美元是 GTV市值的 1/5，那么 GTV的市值 是多少？ 答：400亿美元。 问：我们在谈论 GTV市值。洛夫特斯女士，我想回到图表和时间。请翻到第 5页。梅德拉诺 先生，这个条目的日期是什么？ 答：2020 年 5 月 25 日。 问：这是从哪里发布的？ 答：G News.org。 问：在截图中，V图标左边写的是什么？ 答：郭文贵。 问：梅德拉诺先生，下面的文本是来源的全部文本还是摘录？ 答：只是摘录。 问：洛夫特斯女士，请稍微往下翻。继续翻。所以，梅德拉诺先生，我要请你读一下这里底 部的段落，从“另一个我想插入的”开始。 答：好的。另一个我想插入的项目是我们现在正在建设的喜马拉雅农场。我告诉你，喜马拉 雅农场永远不会筹资，不会筹资，不会向战友们伸手，只会给战友们带来便利和好处。你伸
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第26/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 出你的手，这将永远被记住。这是我们所有人在世界上的大使馆。它现在正在建设中。欢迎 世界各地的战士们积极参与。我们正在起草一份宪章。 问：洛夫特斯女士，现在我们翻到第 28页的底部。梅德拉诺先生，这个条目的日期是什么？ 答：2020 年 7月 22 日。 问：这是一个视频还是文章？ 答：这是一个视频。 问：这是从哪里发布的？ 答：G News.org。 问：梅德拉诺先生，我不知道我们之前是否谈到过，你看到图像下面有方括号的东西了吗？ 答：看到了。 问：那是什么？ 答：那是这个文本在视频中开始的时间戳。 问：洛夫特斯女士，在播放视频之前，梅德拉诺先生，你能读一下日期右侧图像中的文本吗？ 答：好的，联系当地的喜马拉雅农场。 问：这个视频有字幕吗？ 答：有。 问：你能读一下图像中的字幕吗？ 答：好的。因此，一种新的资金方式形成了。 问：洛夫特斯女士，请播放政府证物 C40-V。 (视频播放) 问：洛夫特斯女士，请跳到 2分 56秒。 (视频播放) 问：你可以暂停了。洛夫特斯女士，请回到图表，稍微往下翻。梅德拉诺先生，请读一下第 三行“因此，一种新的资金方式”。 答：好的。因此，一种新的资金方式形成了，这是一种合作方式。你将与当地农场签订一份 贷款合同，利率为 6%，并给你股权选择权，期限为三到五年。然后你可以随时要求股权、利 息或现金。这种合作方式既合法又合规。每个农场都会实施。GTV 不会单独与任何人打交道。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第27/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 相反，我们只会与当地农场签合同。贷款将以这种方式进行。你将决定是否要股权或资金。 这取决于你。 问：洛夫特斯女士，请翻到第 53页。梅德拉诺先生，这个条目的日期是什么？ 答：2020 年 9 月 20 日。 问：这是在哪里发布的？ 答：G News.org。 问：这个视频有字幕吗？ 答：有。 问：请先读一下图像中 2020 年 9 月 20 日日期右侧的文本 答：好的，喜马拉雅农场建立的标准。 问：请读一下静态图像中的字幕。 答：好的。你可以把你的钱放在这里很长时间，甚至永远。 问：洛夫特斯女士，请播放政府证物 C205-V。 (视频播放) 问：暂停。如果可以，请倒退几秒钟，洛夫特斯女士。梅德拉诺先生，你知道长岛哥是谁吗？ 答：不知道。 问：洛夫特斯女士，继续播放。 (视频播放) 问：可以暂停了。请回到图表，洛夫特斯女士。请翻到第 70页。请稍微往下翻。梅德拉诺先 生，这个条目的日期是什么？ 答：2021 年 3 月 11 日。 问：这是从哪里发布的？ 答：YouTube。 问：这个视频有字幕吗？ 答：没有。 问：洛夫特斯女士，请先播放政府证物 C510-V1。 (视频播放)
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第28/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 问：可以暂停了，洛夫特斯女士。请回到图表。梅德拉诺先生，请读一下第一段的前两句话。 答：好的。另一件事是，我想再向你们宣布一件事。从现在开始，如果看到任何关于付款的 内容，如果没有喜马拉雅联盟委员会和农场委员会的官方视频、语音声明和公共账户，你们 不能支付一分钱。 问：谢谢你，梅德拉诺先生。洛夫特斯女士，请翻到第 73 到 74 页。梅德拉诺先生，开始的 那段文字“这就是我要说的全部”，请读一下这一段。 答：好的。这就是我要说的全部。至于账户转移，GTV 贷款计划的账户号码和第一笔付款账 户将稍后发送给联盟委员会和农场，绝对保密。这次我们至少准备了数百个账户。如果一个 账户被关闭，我们将开设另一个账户进行备份。我们将进行游击战。账户将一对一地发送给 每个农场和联盟委员会。发送给每个战友后，所有战友都必须记住，只有联盟委员会的主席、 成员、农场领导、第二指挥官和联盟委员会的铁血小组才有权发送这个账户。那些发送账户 的人，一定是他们熟悉的人。如果你没有确认发送给你账户号码的人，账户号码不算数。确 认账户号码后，不得泄露。你可以把钱汇到这个账户。汇款后，一旦收到钱，我们会通知你， 交易结束。将来，这笔钱将转移给你作为公司初始建设的股份，初始建设公司给你的股份也 将以 1比 20 和 1比 10 的比例匹配。 问：梅德拉诺先生，这里提到了铁血组，你知道那是什么吗？ 答：不知道。 问：洛夫特斯女士，我想再回到图表中的早期部分，请翻到第 13页。请稍微往下翻。梅德拉 诺先生，第 13页上这个条目的日期是什么？ 答：2020 年 6 月 20 日。 问：这是从哪里发布的？ 答：GTV.org。 问：这个视频有字幕吗？ 答：有。 问：请先读一下图像中日期右侧的标题？ 答：喜马拉雅独立金融生态系统。 问：请读一下图像中的字幕。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第29/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 答：好的。你有权收到 1万美元。 问：洛夫特斯女士，请播放政府证物 C123-V。 (视频播放) 问：可以停在这里。洛夫特斯女士，请回到图表。如果可以，请稍微往下翻。梅德拉诺先生， 请读一下第 14页顶部的第一段摘录文本。 答：好的。你有权获得 10,000股 G Fashion 的股票，每股价值 1 美元。为什么？因为当你购 买 G/Club会员时，G/Club可以作为投资公司，我会借给你 10,000 美元无息贷款，帮助你购 买每股价值 1 美元的 G Fashion股票。 问：这是 2020 年 6 月的，对吗，梅德拉诺先生？ 答：对的。 问：现在这个条目的日期是什么，梅德拉诺先生？ 答：2020 年 7月 22 日。 问：这是从哪里发布的？ 答：G News.org。 问：这个视频的标题是什么？ 答：请不要再寄给我支票了。 问：你能读一下图像中的字幕吗？ 答：好的。你立即成为 G/Club 的股东。 问：洛夫特斯女士，请播放政府证物 C212-V。我们播放大约两分半钟。 (视频播放) 问：可以停在这里。洛夫特斯女士，我们跳到大约 5分 27秒处。播放大约 20秒左右。 (视频播放) 问：可以暂停。我们实际上可以继续播放。 (视频播放) 问：可以暂停。请回到图表，洛夫特斯女士。请稍微往下翻一点。梅德拉诺先生，请读一下 6:13 下的文本。 答：好的。请记住，关于资金，你要么去购买 G/Club会员，要么与喜马拉雅农场签订贷款合
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第30/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 同并加入 GTV。 问：请回到视频，洛夫特斯女士，我们跳到大约 7分 50秒处，播放大约 45秒左右。 (视频播放) 问：可以暂停。请回到图表，洛夫特斯女士，请翻到第 30页。稍微往上翻。 (视频播放) 问：梅德拉诺先生，请读一下 8:12 下的文本。 答：好的。所以我的战友们，我不需要钱。如果你看到——向你要钱，游戏结束了。没有希 望推翻中共。我想要的是战友们的爱。让战友们团结在一起。我希望所有的投资者很快成为 亿万富翁，还有一万个投资者，他们也会成为亿万富翁。如果再有一百万投资者加入，我们 将有一百万个亿万富翁。我们的新中国联邦是不是很棒？ 问：洛夫特斯女士，请翻到第 57页。梅德拉诺先生，第 57页的条目日期是什么？ 答：2020 年 10 月 13 日。 问：这是从哪里发布的？ 答：GTV.org。 问：请专注于静态图像，在静态图像顶部中间写的是什么？ 答：G/Clubs。 问：梅德拉诺先生，请读一下 V1 下的第一段内容。 答：好的。亲爱的兄弟姐妹们，今天是 10 月 13 日。今天是关于 G/Club 和 G Fashion 发布 的直播，以及发布前的一些声明。 问：我们可以翻到 V3。梅德拉诺先生，请读一下 V3 下的第一句话。 答：现在我在一群律师面前说些什么？ 问：现在我们翻到第 58页底部，关注 V5。洛夫特斯女士，请播放V5。 (视频播放) 问：洛夫特斯女士，我们重新开始并静音播放。梅德拉诺先生，请读一下V5 下的文本。我们 不会读每一行，我会告诉你什么时候停。 答：好的。G/Club 会员也将被邀请参加 G 峰会年会，提前获取精选的 G 音乐歌曲和视频， 未来能够在社交媒体平台上使用延迟直播功能。这些是初步发布的会员福利，未来还会有其
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第31/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 他福利和服务，这些将会在 G/Clubs 网站上公布。坦率地说，这些都是胡扯。我会直白地告 诉你。这是为了合法地避免 Me Too，但不要以为我们在这里小气。这是没办法的事。我们必 须这样做，但我不认为你会因为免费的音乐而购买 G/Club。如果你是，为什么要买，对吧？ 我的建议是，不要买。但这是法律程序措施的好处。为了防止经济上的 Me Too，所有这些都 在网站上发布。然而，根据修订后的 G/Clubs 发布计划，会员将不再有机会认购或购买未来 发行的任何股份，不会收到 GTV股票，也不会收到购买会员资格的贷款。这是认真的事情， 兄弟姐妹们。即使你已经购买了 G/Club，它绝对不会附带股票。这并不意味着你可以购买 G Fashion 和 GTV的股票，也不意味着你将来可以获得贷款。没有。没有。没有。 问：我们可以暂停。好的。现在，这个“没有。没有。没有”视频，你能提醒我们这个视频的 日期吗，梅德拉诺先生？ 答：是的，2020 年 10 月 13 日。 问：洛夫特斯女士，请回到图表，翻到第 61 页。我搞错了，是第 62 页。梅德拉诺先生，这 个条目是 2021 年 2 月 28 日，对吗？ 答：对的。 问：这是我们刚刚观看的“没有。没有。没有”视频大约四个月之后？ 答：是的。 问：洛夫特斯女士，请翻到第 66页。梅德拉诺先生，这里的文本是来自 2021 年 2 月的视频， 对吗？ 答：对的。 问：我想集中在 V12 下面的文本，特别是底部的段落。请读一下从“关于 G Fashion”开始的那 句话。 答：关于 G Fashion，我们都明白。只要你购买了会员资格，你肯定会成为原始股东。无论 你购买多少，你肯定会成为 G Fashion 的原始股东，战友们。 问：我们可以暂停。请翻到第 101页。梅德拉诺先生，这个条目的日期是什么？ 答：2021 年 6 月 23 日。 问：这是我们刚刚观看的视频大约四个月之后？ 答：是的。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第32/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 问：或者刚刚阅读的视频。这是 2020 年 10 月“没有。没有。没有”视频大约八个月之后？ 答：是的。 问：洛夫特斯女士，请在第 101页播放V2。播放几秒钟后请静音。梅德拉诺先生，我会请你 读一下 V2 下的前两段。 答：好的。 问：抱歉。费根森律师说：为了记录，这是政府证物 C504-V2。 (视频播放) 答：好的。今天我看到有人刚发来消息，七哥不明白。让我看看战友发来的消息。是威廉王 发的。让我读一下。 七哥刚刚宣布了好消息。我没有宣布。所有战友过去的贷款和投资不再需要与农场分享利息。 每个投资了的战友所持有的股份为 1比 10。第二，所有 G/Club持卡人都有权按照卡金额以 1 比 10获得新的 GTV股票。怎么会是这种颜色？看起来很尴尬。所有 G/Club持卡人都有权按 照卡金额以 1 比 10 获得新的 GTV 股票。第三，所有最初购买苹果商店奖励币 G1 的人也都 有权按照购买金额以 1 比 10 获得新的 GTV 股票。威廉王获得核心信息，因为他睡在一起的 那个女人名叫唐平，是铁血小组的成员。所以你看，这个唐平在泄露信息，对吗？开玩笑的。 这是公开信息。说的都是对的。今天我要给你们更多信息，那就是。从第一天投资 GTV的钱， 无论是 G1 还是 G Dollar，或者是所有最初的凤凰农场或 VOG，或者贷款计划或会员购买， 只要你从口袋里投资了一分钱，你投资了一美元。你将拥有 10 股新的 GTV 股票。这是多么 好啊。所有过去所说的事情这次都会兑现给你们。 问：洛夫特斯女士，我们回到图表。请翻到第 103 页。梅德拉诺先生，这里的文本是来自同 一个 2021 年 6 月的视频，对吗？ 答：对的。 问：这是“没有，没有，没有”股票视频的八个月后，对吗？ 答：对的。 问：你能读一下 V6 下面的文本吗？ 答：好的。为什么 G/Club把这些股份给战友？因为我希望他们富有。我希望他们永远不要为 了钱低头。永远不要在别人面前跪下。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第33/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 问：我们翻到第 4页，V7下的最后一段，梅德拉诺先生，请读一下。 答：好的。G/Club，一张全球通行卡，未来无限希望以 50%的折扣购买 G Fashion。你还有 1比 10 的股份，不是 1比 1 的。我从未见过这样的好事发生，直到今天。 问：洛夫特斯女士，请翻到图表中的第 115页。这个视频的日期是什么？ 答：2021 年 7月 30 日。 问：这是从哪里发布的？ 答：GTV.org。 问：这是我们刚才看的视频之后大约一个月吗？ 答：对的。 问：有字幕吗？ 答：没有。 问：请播放政府证物 C506-V5，我��将播放第 114 到 115页。先带声音播放。 (视频播放) 问：洛夫特斯女士，我们重新开始并静音播放。 法官说：现在是 11:30，所以是时候休息半小时了。陪审团成员，请记住，您不允许与其他 人讨论此案。不要让任何人在您面前讨论此案。记住，您不能对案件进行任何形式的研究。 您不能听取任何有关此案的新闻媒体或意见。先生，您可以退席。不要讨论您的证词。 (陪审团不在场) 法官说：您可以出去。 (证人暂时离席) 法官说：请坐下。费根森律师，您认为我们还需要多久完成这位证人的证词？ 费根森律师说：我总是犹豫是否过多承诺。我认为我大约完成了一半。但为了保守起见，可 能整个直接询问会花费一整天。 法官说：好的。好吧，中午见。 (休庭) 下午环节 12:02 p.m.
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第34/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 (陪审团不在场) 法官说：不幸的是，陪审员的午餐刚到，我不得不给他们时间到 12:30，所以我们将在 12:30 开始。你可以退下。 (休庭) 法官说：请让陪审员进来。 (陪审团入场) 法官说：请坐下。陪审团成员们，对你们午餐的迟到表示歉意。记住，你们仍然在宣誓状态 中。 证人：是的，法官。 法官说：你可以继续了。 费根森律师说：谢谢你，法官。洛夫特斯女士，如果我们可以回到政府证物 Z9。请翻到第 113页。 费根森律师提问： 问：好的。梅德拉诺先生，在午餐前我们在看这个图表条目。你记得吗？ 答：记得。 费根森律师说：洛夫特斯女士，请翻到第 114-115页。 问：我们最近播放了 V5视频，你记得吗？ 答：记得。 费根森律师说：好的。洛夫特斯女士，我们可以播放它。 问：梅德拉诺先生，我要请你读一下从“我今天下午与”开始的段落。 答：好的。 问：请。 (视频静音播放) 答：“我今天下午上车前与长岛哥、老凯和如水开了一个会。这只是个简单的事情。对于那些 想购买G-Club会员的战友，如果你有 H Dollar账户，那么你可以直接用你的 H Dollar账户购 买 G-Club会员。如果 H Dollar 和 G-Club 之间的交易手续有问题，请看长岛哥和老班长主持 的联盟委员会的公开直播，他们会告知你所有细节。合理合法地，任何人都可以用 H Dollar
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第35/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 购买 G Club会员，只要你有 H Dollar 和 H Dollar账户。还有很多人问，包括长岛哥和老凯告 诉我的，一些战友问，‘我购买 G Club 会员时还会获得免费股票吗？’ 100%。因为我说过， 我必须保证在 9 月 17日之前购买 G Club会员的任何人都必须分配股份，这是完全一样的。 因为我们说过，任何人都可以选择是否在 9 月 17 日之前用你的钱购买 G Club，你会得到 G Club会员资格和股票股份。你会同时得到这两样东西。” 问：梅德拉诺先生，我们看了这个 2021 年 7月 30 日的视频。你记得吗？ 答：记得。 问：所以这是“No, No, No’ 股票视频后的大约九到十个月？ 答：对的。 费根森律师说：好的。洛夫特斯女士，请回到图表。稍微往下翻到下一页。 问：现在这是我们之前看过的视频，对吗，梅德拉诺先生？ 答：对的。 问：这条记录的日期是什么？ 答：2021 年 8 月 11 日。 问：这是在哪个平台发布的？ 答：YouTube。 费根森律师说：好的。洛夫特斯女士，请翻到第 116页。好的，我想看V3。 问：梅德拉诺先生，我们不需要播放视频，但为了节省时间，我只请你读一下V3 下的文本。 --1047页 答：好的。“战友们，你们将成为其中的一员。如果有这样的机会在你面前，如果有这样的平 台给你，你会有第二个选择吗？你付出了什么？这些社会所有成员，你看到的所有信用卡持 有人，以及背后的所有品牌，经历了多少生死冒险，才造就了这些人。今天你应该把 G Club 和爆料革命与这些风险相比，与这些要求相比，与你所承担的风险相比，与你的成功概率相 比，这是人类历史上一次难得的机会。它具有最低的风险但最大的成功机会，最大的成功概 率。” 费根森律师说：洛夫特斯女士，请翻到第 117页。 问：梅德拉诺先生，请读一下 V5 下的两段文本。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第36/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 答：好的。“兄弟姐妹们，请问问自己，你需要拿出多少钱？加入这样一个平台，用你所拿出 的钱，给我看，我会跟随你，你承担了多少风险？你能把你所承担的风险与人类历史上你参 与的所有这些过去社会组织和各种机构相比吗？ --1048页 告诉我，这些投资和你将得到的所有钱之间的比例差是多少？更重要的是，你的风险和成功 率之间的差距是多少？你目前没有任何损失，也没有任何财务风险。” 费根森律师说：洛夫特斯女士，请翻到 V6。 问：梅德拉诺先生，请读一下 V6 下的段落。 答：好的。“你认为七哥在骗你吗？所以我说，我再重复一遍，所有战友，不管你捐了多少钱， 请确保你保留了你的捐款记录。如果你没有，请联系法治基金和法治社会，他们会根据你的 捐款金额和捐款次数...像我们有超过 100 名战友长期和大量捐款。对于像他们这样的战友， 他们不仅仅是战友。在我心中，他们是我们 G Club 的最高成员。所以如果你购买了 G Club 会员卡，你现在就会有股票。你为什么会亏钱？你承担了什么风险？世界上有这么好的机会 吗？将来还会有这么好的机会吗？你还会有这么好的机会吗？” 费根森律师说：让我们翻到第 118页。 --1049页 问：请读一下 V7下的文本。 答：好的。“如果你购买了会员卡，请联系各农场。每个农场都可以收集卡。这是第一点。第 二点是我们推出了 G Dollar。如果你在 KYC 上开立 G Dollar账户，你可以立即用 G Dollar购 买会员卡。这是第二点。第三，一些被农场认可的战友可以为其他战友购买卡。” 问：好的。梅德拉诺先生，我想再回到图表中的早期部分。 费根森律师说：洛夫特斯女士，请翻到第 13页。如果可以，稍微往下翻。 问：梅德拉诺先生，第 13页上这个条目的日期是什么？ 答：2020 年 6 月 20 日。 问：我们之前看的第一个视频是 2020 年 4 月的，所以这是大约两个月后？
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第37/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 答：对的。 费根森律师说：好的。洛夫特斯女士，请播放政府证物 C123-V，并从视频的 2:10 开始播放。 (视频播放) --1050页 费根森律师说： 洛夫特斯女士，请回到图表，第 14页。 费根森律师提问： 问：梅德拉诺先生，请读一下图表中的第二段摘录。 答：好的。“G Dollar 与美元挂钩；G Coin 与黄金挂钩，采用金本位和金价。” 费根森律师说： 洛夫特斯女士，现在请翻到第 53页。 问：梅德拉诺先生，这是我们之前看过的另一个视频，对吗？ 答：是的。 问：在第 53页，这个图表条目的日期是什么？ 答：2020 年 9 月 20 日。 费根森律师说： 洛夫特斯女士，请播放政府证物 C205-V。我们将跳到大约 3 分 15 秒。我们将播放不到三分 钟。 (视频播放) 费根森律师说： 洛夫特斯女士，请 问：这是 2020 年 9 月，对吗，梅德拉诺先生？ 答：是的。 费根森律师说： 洛夫特斯女士，请回到图表，翻到第 83至 84页。你可以稍微往上翻一点。好的。 问：好的。梅德拉诺先生，我们要看政府证物 C252至 253 的条目。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第38/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 费根森律师说： 如果我们能往下翻。还有 255，257。 问：这四个的日期是什么？ 答：2021 年 4 月 26 日。 问：来源是什么？ 答：YouTube。 费根森律师说： 如果我们能翻到最上面的那个。 问：上面那个图片中显示的是什么？ 答：金条。 问：图像下面写的是什么？ 答：“喜美元是一种稳定币。” 问：你对喜美元有任何独立了解吗？ 答：没有。 费根森律师说： 好的。洛夫特斯女士，请往下翻。请播放政府证物 C257-V。 (视频播放) 费根森律师说： 好的。洛夫特斯女士，请回到图表。 费根森律师提问： 问：梅德拉诺先生，这是 2021 年 4 月，对吗？ 答：对的。 费根森律师说： 让我们回到图表，翻到第 120页。 问：这个条目的日期是什么，梅德拉诺先生？ 答：2021 年 9 月 29 日。 舒里克律师说：你指的是哪个视频？
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第39/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 费根森律师说：屏幕上的条目。这是政府证物 C405。 问：梅德拉诺先生，日期是什么？ 答：2021 年 9 月 29 日。 问：这是从哪里发布的？ 答：gnews.org。 问：你能读一下图像中的标题吗？ 答：好的。“2021 年 9 月 29 日郭文贵先生直播要点。” 问：在图像底部，你能读一下底部的那一行写的是什么吗？ 答：底部标题下，视频名称吗？ 问：对，在图像最底部的那一行。 答：哦，G News, GTV，我看不太清楚最后一个。喜马拉雅？ 问：梅德拉诺先生，请读一下下面的第一段。 答：好的。“目前最安全的虚拟货币是喜币，因为其价值的 20％与黄金挂钩。加入稳定币使其 从好变得更好。 如果虚拟货币有稳定币、支付系统和与黄金挂钩，那就应该购买。” 费根森律师说： 洛夫特斯女士，请翻到——稍微往下翻一点，下一条。 问：梅德拉诺先生，这个视频的日期是什么？ 答：2021 年 10 月 20 日。 问：这是从哪里发布的？ 答：odysee.com。 问：你知道那是什么吗？ 答：我不知道。 问：有 费根森律师说：实际上，让我们稍微往下翻一点。 问：梅德拉诺先生，我要请你读一段，但我先想播放一些视频。 费根森律师说：
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第40/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 洛夫特斯女士，请播放政府证物 C459-V1。 (视频播放) 费根森律师说： 我们可以暂停。也许我们可以重新开始并静音播放。 问：梅德拉诺先生，在第 121 页，我请你从 V1 下面的第一段，倒数第四行开始读，“让我回 到”。 答：在第一段吗？ 问：对。第一段，倒数第四行。“让我回到”。 答：从“让我回到”开始？ 问：对。请读完整个段落。 答：好的。“让我回到你的喜币。我们所有人的喜币，无论如何，七哥没有任何。我的律师今 天事先说了，郭先生，当你再谈到喜币时，必须是你的 H喜币，不是我们的，你的喜币。” 问：实际上，梅德拉诺先生，你可以再读几句。 答：“这些混蛋太黑了，这是资本的邪恶。让我告诉你资本的邪恶。这就是我所说的...太坏了， 这些混蛋！叫什么来着？我在谈论你的喜币，七哥当时设计了它。它有第一个，它有货币属 性，为什么？它有 20％的黄金。太棒了，它从第一天起就作为货币诞生，所以它有价值，并 且与黄金挂钩，不与其他挂钩...直接清算黄金。无论它筹集到了多少，20%将转化为黄金。 这是人类的黄金时代——” 问：你可以停在这里。谢谢你，梅德拉诺先生。 费根森律师说： 现在请翻到第 123页，洛夫特斯女士。 问：我想关注 V3，梅德拉诺先生。我请你读第四行开始的句子。 它写的是 H，然后写“喜币必须”。请从那里开始读，读到段落结束。 答：“喜币必须赚钱。如果有人亏钱，我可以说我会 100%赔偿。我给你 100%。谁亏钱，我 承担。他肯定会赚的。这只是你赚多少，但对你们来说，说实话，对你们来说，将会是三倍， 五倍，十倍，一百倍。” 问：可以停在这里，梅德拉诺先生。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第41/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 费根森律师说： 好的。洛夫特斯女士，请翻到第 126页，底部。 问：梅德拉诺先生，这个视频��日期是什么？ 答：2021 年 11 月 1 日。 问：这是从哪里发布的？ 答：Gnews.org。 问：这个视频有字幕吗？ 答：有。 问：请读一下屏幕上的字幕。 答：“这将远远超出你的想象。” 费根森律师说： 好的。洛夫特斯女士，请播放政府证物 C300-V。 (视频播放) 费根森律师说： 你可以多播放一些。 (视频继续播放) 费根森律师说： 好的，洛夫特斯女士，请回到图表。翻到第 130页。 费根森律师提问： 问：好的，梅德拉诺先生，这个条目的日期是什么？ 答：2021 年 11 月 9 日。 问：这是从哪里发布的？ 答：Gnews.org。 问：是文章还是视频？ 答：是文章。 问：请读一下图像中的标题。 答：“当你购买喜币时，你就在购买下金蛋的母鸡。”
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第42/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 问：请读一下第一段中的文本。 答：好的。“郭文贵：如果你买喜币，你就是在正确地进行投资。你是在投资，而不是投机。 此外，你购买的不仅仅是升值，而是下金蛋的母鸡。” 费根森律师说： 好的，洛夫特斯女士，请翻到第 134页。 问：好的，梅德拉诺先生，这个条目的日期是什么？ 答：2021 年 11 月 16 日。 问：这是从哪里发布的？ 答：Gnews.org。 问：这个视频有字幕吗？ 答：有。 问：请读一下图像中的字幕。 答：“你知道它值多少钱吗？2万亿的 5%是多少。” 费根森律师说： 好的，洛夫特斯女士，请播放政府证物 C432-V。 (视频播放) 费根森律师说： 请回到图表，第 134页。 问：请读一下静态图像下的文本。 答：好的。“好人也要过上安全和体面的生活。就像我说的，任何 G Club 的买家，法治基金 的捐赠者，都不能包括捐赠不成功的人。GTV 投资者、借款人和喜币持有者将始终享有所有 超贵宾待遇。根据你们的不同投资，全人类中没有人敢这样做。你们从来没有想过战友们在 GTV上总共投资了多少钱。不到 10亿美元，现在 GTV拥有喜马拉雅储备的 5%。” 问：请继续读。 答：“你知道它值多少钱吗？2万亿的 5%是多少。1亿美元，不包括其他机构投资。你有多少 钱，你算过了吗？” 费根森律师说：
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第43/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 好的，洛夫特斯女士，现在请翻到图表的第 140页。 如果可以，稍微放大这个条目。 问：好的，梅德拉诺先生，这个条目的日期是什么？ 答：2021 年 12 月 10 日。 问：这是从哪里发布的？ 答：YouTube。 问：梅德拉诺先生，图像中的车是什么颜色？ 答：红色。 问：你认识这个车型吗？ 答：是的。 问：是什么车型？ 答：一辆兰博基尼。 问：请读一下图像下的文本。 答：“郭文贵，喜币上月球[官方视频] 费根森律师说： 好的，洛夫特斯女士，请播放政府证物 370-V。 (视频播放) 费根森律师说： 洛夫特斯女士，可以稍微回到 2分 10秒左右。 问：梅德拉诺先生，这里展示的是什么类型的币？ 答：金币。 费根森律师说： 如果我们可以再往前几秒。暂停。抱歉。再前进一步。好的。那就这样，洛夫特斯女士。请 翻到 2分 43秒。 可以再播放一秒。实际上——撤回。洛夫特斯女士，我们实际上可以先调出政府证物CT38。 然后调出政府证物 CT42。好的，洛夫特斯女士，请回到图表。现在请翻到第 147页。 费根森律师提问：
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第44/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 问：梅德拉诺先生，这个条目的日期是什么？ 答：2022 年 1 月 10 日。 问：这是从哪里发布的？ 答：gettr.com。 问：作为你的工作的一部分，你保存了从 gettr.com获取的内容吗？ 答：是的。 问：从高层次看，你对 Gettr 的理解是什么？ 答：它是一个社交媒体平台—— 舒里克律师说：反对。 法官说：反对无效。你可以回答。 答：一个社交媒体平台。 问：这个视频有英文字幕吗？ 答：没有。 费根森律师说： 好的。洛夫特斯女士，请调出政府证物W1020-V。 (视频播放) 费根森律师说： 可以暂停，洛夫特斯女士。也许我们可以把它静音。 问：梅德拉诺先生，请从你的资料夹第 147 页底部的第五行开始读，从“第三，一旦你购买了 币”到结尾。 答：好的。 问：谢谢。 答：“第三，一旦你购买了币，如果你有任何财务损失，七哥会负责。你只会赚钱，不会亏损。 你只会赚钱，不会亏损。这是对我们国内战友的保证。这是七哥的保证。谢谢。” 费根森律师说： 洛夫特斯女士，请回到图表，翻到第 150页，往下翻。 问：好的，这个条目的日期是什么，梅德拉诺先生？
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第45/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 答：2022 年 1 月 26 日。 问：这是从哪里发布的？ 答：Gettr。 费根森律师说： 好的，洛夫特斯女士，请播放政府证物W1021-V。 (视频播放) 费根森律师说： 洛夫特斯女士，也许我们可以静音播放。 问：梅德拉诺先生，请从你的资料夹第 150页的视频下几乎所有的文本中读一下。 答：好的。“我们为人类最好的 KYC感到自豪。我们有 50亿美元现金等待 KYC。这不是我说 的。他自己核实的。我们有六大品牌宣布喜币，然后喜币可以购买东西。我们会暂停它。我 们会让我们的 HPay上架，并要求更多的 KYC进来。最后，我告诉他，我们简短地与各国政 府谈了这个喜币问题。郭文贵，你的设计太棒了，你是天才！太棒了！我告诉你喜币将有多 值钱——” 问：好的。谢谢你，梅德拉诺先生。 费根森律师说： 洛夫特斯女士，如果我们可以回到图表并翻到第 151页，下一页。 问：好的。现在屏幕上的条目，梅德拉诺先生，日期是什么？ 答：2022 年 2 月 2 日。 问：这是从哪里发布的？ 答：Gnews.org。 问：你能读一下静态图像中的标题吗？ 答：好的。“投资者对喜币的精彩设计感到惊讶。” 费根森律师说： 好的，洛夫特斯女士，请翻到第 151页。抱歉，我的意思是第 155页。 问：好的，现在这个条目的日期是什么？ 答：2022 年 2 月 16 日。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第46/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 问：这是从哪里发布的？ 答：Gnews.org。 问：这个视频有字幕吗？ 答：有。 问：请读一下图像中的字幕。 答：“战友们，你们拥有世界第四大数字货币交易所。” 费根森律师说： 好的，洛夫特斯女士，请播放政府证物 C491-V。 (视频播放) 费根森律师说： 可以在这里暂停。如果我们可以回到图表，第 155页。 费根森律师提问： 问：梅德拉诺先生，请读一下第四段。 答：好的。“如果喜马拉雅交易所的数字银行启动，如果某个国家投资（在喜马拉雅交易所）， 你们会变得更富有，而我会破产。” 费根森律师说： 洛夫特斯女士，现在请翻到第 167页。 问：梅德拉诺先生，这个条目的日期是什么？ 答：2022 年 5 月 15 日。 问：这是从哪里发布的？ 答：Gettr.com。 问：这个视频有字幕吗？ 答：有的。 问：请读一下图像中的字幕。 答：“他们都投资了我们的 G系列，并且是我们的战友。” 费根森律师说： 洛夫特斯女士，请播放政府证物 C351-V。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第47/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 (视频播放) 问：梅德拉诺先生—— 费根森律师说： 洛夫特斯女士，请翻到第 178页的图表。稍微往下翻。 问：梅德拉诺先生，这是什么日期？ 答：2022 年 11 月 27日。 问：来源是什么？ 答：郭文贵的 Gettr账户。 问：这个视频有字幕吗？ 答：有的。 费根森律师说： 如果我们可以调出 GX GTR1，洛夫特斯女士。我们播放大约一分钟半。 费根森律师说： 好的，洛夫特斯女士，请回到图表，翻到第 180页。 费根森律师提问： 问：好的，这个视频的日期是什么，梅德拉诺先生？ 答：2022 年 12 月 4 日。 问：来源是什么？ 答：郭文贵的 Gettr账户。 问：这里有字幕吗？ 答：有的。 问：请读一下图像中的字幕。 答：“HCN最高价值是。” 费根森律师说： 洛夫特斯女士，请播放政府证物 GTR5。我们将播放大约两分钟。 (视频播放) 费根森律师说：
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第48/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 可以暂停。 问：梅德拉诺先生，转向—— 费根森律师说： 洛夫特斯女士，如果我们可以回到第 180-181页的图表。 问：梅德拉诺先生，请读一下第 180页的最后一段。 答：好的。“只有这样的货币才具有货币的功能，不论你是在月球还是火星，资金即时转移， 不受任何影响。这是区块链。这是人类的未来。NFSC 的未来价值在于它是人类获取最低成 本资金的避风港，精英汇聚之地。” 问：然后请读一下第 181页的第一句话。 答：“HCN最高价值是，它是一种稳定币。” 费根森律师说： 好的，洛夫特斯女士，请继续往下翻到第 181页。 问：这个视频的日期是什么，梅德拉诺先生？ 答：2022 年 12 月 16 日。 问：来源是什么？ 答：郭文贵的 Gettr账户。 问：有字幕吗？ 答：有的。 问：请读一下图像中的字幕。 答：“如果 HCN 没有与 HDO按 1:1挂钩。” 费根森律师说： 洛夫特斯女士，请播放政府证物 GTR8。 (视频播放) 费根森律师说： 好的，洛夫特斯女士，请回到图表，翻到第 182页。如果可以，稍微往上翻。 费根森律师提问： 问：梅德拉诺先生，请读一下第三段，从“想一想”开始。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第49/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 答：好的。“想一想。如果 HCN 没有与 HDO 按 1:1 挂钩，并且没有严格的 KYC 流程，它能 走到这一步吗？ 早就消失了。想想这意味着什么。” 费根森律师说： 请稍微往下翻一点。 问：请读一下这个摘录的最后两句话。 答：“此外，FTX挪用了客户资金。他们是一群骗子。” 费根森律师说： 洛夫特斯女士，请翻到第 184页。 问：这个视频的日期是什么？ 答：2023 年 1 月 3 日。 问：来源是什么？ 答：郭文贵的 Gettr账户。 问：这个视频有字幕吗？ 答：有的。 问：请读一下图像中的字幕。 答：“作为投资者挪用你的钱。” 费根森律师说： 洛夫特斯女士，请播放政府证物 GTR12。 (视频播放) 费根森律师说： 可以暂停。 问：梅德拉诺先生，请读一下屏幕上的字幕。 答：“这让客户感到非常不安全。” 费根森律师说： 洛夫特斯女士，请回到图表，翻到第 200页。 问：好的，在第 200页的底部，梅德拉诺先生，这个条目的日期是什么？
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第50/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 答：2023 年 2 月 28 日。 问：这是从哪里发布的？ 答：gnews.org。 问：是视频还是文章？ 答：是文章。 问：标题是什么？ 答：“2023 年 2 月 28 日，郭文贵的 Gettr视频（第一部分）全文。” 问：图表中的文本是全文还是摘录？ 答：是摘录。 问：请读一下图表中的文本。 答：“让我们以喜币（HCN）为例。 战友们，你们的 HCN 有锁定期，对吧？假设���哥的 HCN 没有锁定限制，那么他可以偷偷地 每天卖出他的 HCN并兑换现金，对吗？ 但是问问你自己：后果是什么？ 你的 HCN 不流通，所以虽然你可以看到 HCN 的价格，但只有七哥或少数人可以在市场上买 卖 HCN并兑换现金。在这种情况下，会有通货膨胀吗？不会！因为你的 HCN 根本不流通！” 问：梅德拉诺先生，这篇文章中说的“你的 HCN 根本不流通”的日期是什么？ 答：2023 年 2 月 28 日。 费根森律师说： 洛夫特斯女士，现在请翻到第 192页。稍微回到过去。 问：梅德拉诺先生，在第 192页，这个图表条目的日期是什么？ 答：2023 年 2 月 13 日。 问：所以这是我们刚刚看到的关于不流通的条目大约两周前的日期？ 答：对的。 法官说：你现在在哪一页？ 费根森律师说：第 192页，法官。 法官说：继续。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第51/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 问：梅德拉诺先生，请读一下这篇文章的第一句话。 答：“在过去的一周中，喜币（H Coin）的价格回落到大约 20 美元，平均每日交易量约为 80,000个，周交易量约为 550,000个。” 问：两周前的这篇文章说每日交易量是多少？ 舒里克律师说：反对。 法官说：反对无效。 答：每日。 问：每日。 答：80,000个。 费根森律师说：好的。洛夫特斯女士，我不打算——嗯，我只打算稍微回到过去。如果我们 现在可以翻到第 189页。 问：好的，梅德拉诺先生，第 189页的条目日期是什么？ 答：2023 年 2 月 8 日。 问：这是从哪里发布的？ 答：gettr.com。 问：我们看的第一个视频是 2020 年 4 月的，对吗？ 答：对的。 问：这是将近三年后的，对吗？ 答：对的。 问：选定内容中有两个图像，对吗？ 答：对的。 问：这些图像是从视频中截取的吗？ 答：对的。 问：在第二个——底部的船上面括号里的是什么？ 答：是该图像截取时的时间戳。 费根森律师说：洛夫特斯女士，如果我们可以稍微放大底部的截图。谢谢，洛夫特斯女士。 问：好的，梅德拉诺先生，除了为你的证词审阅证物外，你对 A10 有任何独立了解吗？
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第52/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 答：没有。 费根森律师说：好的，我们可以缩小，洛夫特斯女士，这里有两个截图。 问：梅德拉诺先生，你是否帮助制作了该视频的额外截图图表？ 答：是的。 费根森律师说：洛夫特斯女士，请仅向证人展示标记为政府证物 Z10 的内容。 问：梅德拉诺先生，这是你刚才提到的图表吗？ 答：是的。 问：这个图表是否准确反映了政府证物 451-V中的信息，我们刚刚看的视频？ 答：是的。 费根森律师说：政府提出政府证物 Z10。 舒里克律师说：没有反对。 法官说：准许。 （政府证物 Z10 被接纳为证据） 费根森律师说：洛夫特斯女士，如果我们可以公开这个内容，法官，如果我可以将硬拷贝分 发给陪审团、法庭和证人。 法官说：可以。 费根森律师说：谢谢，法官。实际上，法官，我刚才有些急了。我们现在只看屏幕上的内容。 稍后我会想要发布的证据。 法官说：好的。 费根森律师说：抱歉。 问：好的。洛夫特斯女士，我们现在有政府证物 Z10，对吧？梅德拉诺先生，请回答。 答：是的。 问：好的，谢谢。 费根森律师说：洛夫特斯女士，如果我们可以浏览这七页内容。 好的，可以到最后一页。 问：这些截图在视频中出现了吗，梅德拉诺先生？ 答：是的。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第53/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 费根森律师说：好的。洛夫特斯女士，如果我们可以回到证物，政府证物 Stip 2。 好的，这是关于网页和视频的协议。 洛夫特斯女士，我们可以翻到第 20页吗？ 问：梅德拉诺先生，我想让你关注 GX W164。你看到了吗？ 答：看到了。 问：你可以读一下这个是什么时候保存的吗？ 答：2024 年 3 月 25 日。 问：是你保存的吗？ 答：是的，我保存的。 问：你可以读一下域名吗？你不需要读所有的数字，只需读域名的开头。 答：好的。a-10.zendesk.com。 法官说：好的，那是 a-10。 答：是的。 费根森律师说：好的，洛夫特斯女士，如果我们可以拉出那个证物，GX W164。 问：梅德拉诺先生，这是我们刚才看的保存内容吗？ 答：是的。 问：你可以——在左上角，你可以读一下上面写的内容吗？ 答：A-10客户服务中心。 问：然后在下面，大写的粗体字，你可以读一下吗？ 答：A10项目介绍。 问：下面显示它是什么时候发布的？ 答：一年前。 费根森律师说：好的，洛夫特斯女士，我们能在右侧添加 GX Z10，把它们并排放吗？ （接着在下一页） 费根森律师提问： 问：如果你能缩小右边的内容，我们可以滚动一下看看页面的样子。 好的，继续滚动。这就可以了，洛夫特斯女士，谢谢。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第54/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 梅德拉诺先生，在你作证之前，你做了这个对比吗？你有将这两者并排看过吗？ 答：是的。 问：它们如何对比？ 答：它们是相同的。 问：好的，现在，洛夫特斯女士，我将专注于 GXW164，我现在想展示作为证物的 GXW164-T。 费根森律师说：法官，这是证物 W164-T，我想公开展示，可以吗？ 法官说：可以。 问：现在，梅德拉诺先生，看着第一页，我能请你读一下这页的英文内容吗？ 答：好的。远程取款，采取果断措施处理情况，用钱摧毁共产党。A10 项目介绍。喜马拉雅 农场联盟委员会，2023 年 2 月 8 日。 问：请看第二页。请读一下英文内容。 答：好的。什么是 A10项目？指的是 Gettr 的 5%股权和喜马拉雅交易所的 5%股权。解释： 该项目最初称为 A15，还包括 G/Club 的 5%股权，因为 G/Club 是全球顶级俱乐部，会员信 息不应向股东和公众披露，所以 A15变成了 A10。 问：梅德拉诺先生，你知道 A15 是什么吗？ 答：我不知道。 问：请看第三页，好的。 梅德拉诺先生，只看顶部中间的英文内容，那是什么？ 答：A10项目结构图。 问：如果我们能再放大一些洛夫特斯女士，看一下这个图表的顶部行。在左上角，你能读一 下那里的英文内容吗？ 答：好的。新的和旧的 G/Club 卡，SEC退款，数字银行到 A10等。其他类型的权益。 问：然后往右移动一格。你能读一下那里的英文内容吗？ 答：新的投资超过 100,000。 问：然后再往右，请读一下那里的内容？ 答：新的投资少于 100,000。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第55/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 问：现在往下一行，你能读一下这些框中的英文内容吗？ 答：好的。左边的每个基金或实体，每个新基金。 问：往上滚动。 答：在中间，每个新基金。 问：你可以读全部三个。 答：控股基金，控股公司。然后最右边，每个 SPV。 问：然后你可以读底部的两个吗？ 答：好的。5% Gettr，5%喜马拉雅交易所。 问：请看下一页。 梅德拉诺先生，我请你读一下这页的英文内容，只读它。 答：哪些投资可以获得 A10股权？1、新的和旧的 G/Club 卡。2、新的平台投资。3、新的和 持续的投资，包括购卡和 A10 投资。4、SEC 退款和再投资。5、数字银行项目转为 A10 项 目。6、未收到的喜马拉雅交易所资金。7、农场战友的其他权益。 备注：对于第 4、5、6 和 7 项涉及资金冻结或诉讼，股权将保留至诉讼结束 和资金解冻为止。 问：请看下一页。 梅德拉诺先生，请读顶部中间的英文内容？ 答：A10股权和 G/Club 卡福利。 问：请读下面的文字。 答：任何获得 A10股权的人将获得相同价值的 G/Club 卡*以 1万美元为单位取整。 问：请读下一个文本？ 答：任何获得 G/Club 卡福利的人将获得相同价值的 A10股权。 问：请看下一页。 现在，梅德拉诺先生，你能读一下这里的英文内容吗？ 答：使用 HDO 投资的注意事项。HDO 投资和法定货币投资在股权价值上没有区别。使用 HDO投资时请注意：1、对于 2023 年 1 月 28 日 12点前（东部时间）将 HDO汇入 FMV账 户并在 2023 年 1 月 1 日后退款并存入法定货币的部分，除了通过农场进行的场外交易外，通
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第56/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 过投资 A10获得 5%喜马拉雅币奖励。 2、对于 2023 年 1 月 28 日 12 点后（东部时间）通过出售喜马拉雅币获得 HDO并投资A10或购买卡的人，不能获得 5%喜马拉雅币奖励。3、对于其他 HDO，如 2023 年 1 月 28 日 12 点前持有的 HDO，奖励方式将另行决定。原则上，如果你能证明所投资的 HDO 不是通过 1 月 28 日后出售喜马拉雅币获得的，你可以获得与其他投资相当的奖励。 问：请看下一页。这看起来是重复的，对吗，梅德拉诺先生？ 答：对的。 问：请看下一页。你能读一下这里的文本吗？ 答：好的。数字银行项目。由于中共的破坏，数字银行项目已暂停，所有投资资金被冻结。 战友有三个选择： 1、转为 A10 项目，获得相应金额的卡，并获得 5%喜马拉雅币奖励。2、等 待未来的数字银行项目，但没有 5%喜马拉雅币奖励。3、退款。需要等待资金解冻。 问：请看下一页。如果可以，梅德拉诺先生，请读第二段。 答：这个 A10 融资的结束日期尚未确定，但由于与中共处于战争状态，不排除临时变更。请 理解。 问：请看第 10页。梅德拉诺先生，请读一下这里的内容？ 答：好的。喜马拉雅币奖励的实施和锁定。融资完成并获得 A10 权益批准后，将立即检查奖 励资格，并实施相应的喜马拉雅币和 Gettr币奖励。此时的喜马拉雅币奖励自发行之日起有锁 定期，其中 20%锁定一年，40%锁定两年，其余 40%锁定三年。Gettr币没有锁定。 问：请看下一页。你能读一下这里的文本吗，梅德拉诺先生？ 答：当前进展和计划。对于已完成的投资，如旧卡、数字银行项目转账等，只需签署相关文 件认购基金份额或股份。对于 SEC 退款和新投资，从超过 10 万美元的大额资金开始，完成 各种程序；电汇和对账。 计划在 2 月底和 3 月初开始中小型 SPV融资，最低投资金额尚未确定。这次 融资将由联盟财务部组织实施，投资事宜将依次在各个农场解释。 问：我们可以看最后一页，第 12页。 洛夫特斯女士，如果我们可以回到图表，请 GXZ-9。这是最初的截图来自的
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第57/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 视频，对吧，梅德拉诺先生？ 答：对的。 问：所以，洛夫特斯女士，如果我们现在可以看第 190页。 顶部的第一个条目，梅德拉诺先生，如果你能读——实际上，这个顶部条目 的日期是什么？ 答：2023 年 2 月 9 日。 问：来源是什么？ 答：郭文贵的 Gettr账户。 问：你能读一下那里英文内容吗？ 答：亲爱的战友们，长岛兄弟、妮可、小王子和所有前线战友将在华盛顿特区书写新的篇章。 气球事件是送给我们的最大礼物。最终，所有中共在美国的渗透势力都将被连根拔起。接下 来，铁血组和联盟将直播帮助战友们回应 A10 和 G/Club 卡项目。共产党，你完了。 问：请稍微往下翻到 GXW201。实际上，如果我们可以再稍微往下翻到 GXW200。 这个条目的日期是什么，梅德拉诺先生？ 答：2023 年 2 月 10 日。 问：那是第二天？ 答：对的。 问：这是在哪里发布的？ 答：在 G News.org。 问：你可以读一下标题吗？ 答：2023 年 2 月 10 日，郭文贵的 Gettr首次直播。 问：在图像的左下角，那里写的是什么？ 问：带有认证图标“V”的郭文贵。梅德拉诺先生，请您读一下图表中的文本。 答：星期天会有直播。请大家密切关注喜马拉雅联盟委员会和 Fay Fay 节目的信息。您可以 在 A-10投资项目中获得问题的答案。我不能一一回复您们的这么多信息。 问：请您读一下摘录的剩余部分。 答：Fay Fay秀节目和喜马拉雅联盟委员会会回答我们所有战友关于 A10投资项目的问题。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第58/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 问：洛夫特斯女士，请展示第 194页。如果能往下翻的话？ 这个条目的日期是什么？ 答：2023 年 2 月 17日。 问：它发布在哪里？ 答：G News.org。 问：你能读一下标题吗？ 答：Fay Fay秀节目 A10 问答。 问：梅德拉诺先生，请读一下图表中的文本。嗯，读到下一页的大约一半。 答：好的。关于 A10 项目。Gettr 的 5%股权和喜马拉雅储备的 5%股权被统称为 A10。 G/Clubs 是私募股权公司的运营形式。作为一个顶级的全球俱乐部，它具有高度的保密性， 因此不参与此项目。 A10 投资一元相当于一万元投资，其股份稀缺，具有很高的经济增长价值。 Gettr 和喜马拉雅储备不会寻找机构来筹集资金，而是直接上市和交易股票。在这个阶段，通 过战友的参与，筹款过程已经完成。由于 A10 的投资权利与投资金额相关，过多的筹款将稀 释未来的预期，加上中共持续的破坏募资将会—— 问：请往下翻，洛夫特斯女士。请读接下来的三行。 答：随时关闭。有兴趣投资的战友，快速行动是参与 A10项目的最大保障。 问：您可以继续读下一段。 答：A10 股票未来值多少钱？您可以参考当前市场对 Twitter、Facebook、Google 和 ChatGPT等高科技公司的估值。 问：洛夫特斯女士，请展示第 199页。 日期是什么，梅德拉诺先生？ 答：2023 年 2 月 20 日。 问：来源是哪里？ 答：郭文贵的 Gettr账号。 问：请读一下截图中的副标题。 答：这就是为什么我们需要快速推进 A10项目。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第59/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 问：洛夫特斯女士——实际上，梅德拉诺先生，请读一下标题下方的文本。 答：好的。郭文贵解释说，战友们最好尽早投资 A10，否则他们的利益将被大股东吃掉。 问：洛夫特斯女士，请展示政府证物 Gettr 16。 （播放媒体） 问：洛夫特斯女士，请回到图表。我们可以往下翻。 梅德拉诺先生，请读一下视频文本。 答：好的。你们要求我们现在完成喜马拉雅交易所的5%的A10项目。让我们的战友们进来。 我有权分配资金。否则，如果我们的战友们迟到；例如，半年后，前面的投资者已经进来了， 并卖掉了所有的币，他们甚至不会和你计算股份。 前面的股东已经拿到了钱，这就是为什么我们需要快速推进 A10 项目。让我 们的战友们也获得今年发行的 5%的币。未来 98 年和 99 年总会有 5%。这就是为什么，为什 么要等？我们可以随时发布。在合法的白皮书中，已经说明可以随时发布。每个人都急于拥 有它。 问：洛夫特斯女士，现在请展示第 206页。 梅德拉诺先生，这里的日期是什么？ 答：2023 年 3 月 5 日。 问：这发布在哪里？ 答：G News.org。 问：你能读一下标题吗？ 答：2023 年 3 月 4 日，郭文贵的 Gettr视频全文。 问：实际上我们集中在政府证物W183，梅德拉诺先生，这个条目的日期是什么？ 答：2023 年 3 月 8 日。 问：这发布在哪里？ 答：在 G News.org。 问：你能读一下标题吗？ 答：2023 年 3 月 7日，郭文贵的 Gettr视频全文。 问：梅德拉诺先生，请读一下图表中的文本。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第60/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 答：好的。现在对我们来说最关键的是我们应该有常识，应该集中精力发展我们的 A10 投资 计划，扩展 G/Club会员群体并聚集更多的战友。 问：请往下翻，洛夫特斯女士。 答：大多数机构投资者对能够参与我们的投资计划感到非常羡慕。 问：这是 2023 年 3 月，对吧？ 答：对的。 问：你从 2020 年 4 月开始？ 答：对的。 问：我要再回到过去。实际上，撤回。让我们换一个图表，洛夫特斯女士。这是政府证物 Z11。我们可以公布。 梅德拉诺先生，这是你帮助准备的另一个图表吗？ 答：是的。 问：这里的日期是什么？ 答：2018 年 11 月 20 日。 问：请读一下选择内容中的文本。 答：屏幕底部的那个？ 问：在 V1 下面的。 答：郭文贵自享受民主西方的自由以来，承诺立即设立一个 1 亿美元的基金，称为法治基金。 问：请翻到下一页。 梅德拉诺先生，请读一下这一页的内容。 答：这是他的钱。 问：这是 2018 年，对吧？ 答：是的。 问：我们再回到 Z9，洛夫特斯女士。我们仍在 2023 年 3 月。我想回到 2020 年 6 月，请展 示第 11页。 梅德拉诺先生，第 11页上的条目日期是什么？ 答：2020 年 6 月 20 日。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第61/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 问：这发布在哪里？ 答：GTV.org。 问：我们几乎在图表的开头，对吧？ 答：是的。 问：请翻到第 12页。我们要去 V5。 梅德拉诺先生，请读一下 2020 年 6 月 20 日 V5 下方的文本。 答：好的。我希望你们记住，文贵告诉你们，你们不会损失一分钱。当然，我也不会让别人 偷走我们的一分钱或诈骗我们的一分钱。 费根森律师说：法官，我能稍微请示一下吗。没有其他问题了，谢谢。 法官说：交叉询问。 舒里克律师交叉询问： 问：谢谢。下午好，梅德拉诺先生。 答：下午好。 问：你已经作证关于政府证物 Z9、Z10 和 Z11，对吗？ 答：对的。 问：这些是显示来自不同来源的声明的图表，对吗？ 答：对的。 问：正如我们今天早上和下午看到的，许多来源是视频，对吗？ 答：是的。 问：许多来源是文件，对吗？ 答：文件？ 问：是的，文件。 答：文章或—— 问：我认为你作证说你进行了在线保存？ 答：保存了在线文章。 问：正确。用你的词来说，文章。我一般会说文件。文章也是一个公平的说法。所以你有视 频，也有文章和文件，对吗？
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第62/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 答：是的。 问：我们同意这一点吗？ 答：视频、文章，还有一些社交媒体帖子，我相信。 问：够公平。在某些情况下，我们刚才谈到的图表所依据的源文件非常长？ 答：是的。 问：在某些情况下，极其长，两到三个小时？ 答：对的。 问：你在直接询问时作证说你创建了这个图表，对吗？ 答：我协助创建了，正确。我审查并确认其有效性。 问：你记得什么时候看到这个图表的初稿吗？ 答：大约两周前，非常最近。 问：当你收到初稿时，它制做完成度已经相当完善了吗？ 答：是的，和我们现在看到的差不多，正确。 问：我相信你在直接询问中作证说是政府的检控团队创建了那个初稿，对吗？ 答：这是正确的。 问：然后你对其进行了修改，对吗？ 答：我不会说是修改。我做了一些小的修正。我没有改变它上面的任何内容。我只是——如 果有些东西与源文件上显示的不一样，我就做了一个小的修正。 问：理解。所以你有点像校对它？ 答：正确。 问：为了小的修正，对吗？ 答：是的，语法错误。 问：还有打字错误？ 问：你也检查了日期？ 答：是的。 问：这类事情？ 答：正确。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第63/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 问：所以虽然你帮助创建了这个图表，但可以说这个图表主要是由政府检方团队创建的，对 吗？ 答：这是公平的说法。 问：你在直接询问中也作证了这一点，但我只是想确认一下。所以很明显是检察官决定要把 什么放进图表，对吗？ 答：正确。 问：显然是检察官选择了在图表中摘录哪些视频，对吗？ 答：这是正确的。 问：显然是检察官选择了在图表中摘录哪些文章，对吗？ 答：正确。 问：然后很显然，选择摘录文档也是由检控团队完成的，对吗？ 答：所以图表中的摘录是由检察官完成的；这是你的问题吗？ 问：这是个不好的问题。我再试一次。 所以很显然，图表所依据的文档也是由检察官选择的，对吗？ 费根森律师说：法官，这可以，但请明确一点，也许是正确的。我只是反对这种表述。 法官说：请重新陈述你的问题。 舒里克律师说：当然，法官。 问：检察官选择了基础文档，对吗？ 答：是的。 问：你没有从头到尾看过图表中的所有视频，对吗？ 答：我没有。 问：那真是太好了。你知道检方团队是否从头到尾看过所有视频吗？ 答：我不知道。 问：你不知道吗？ 答：我不知道。 问：你同意我的看法吗，选择放入图表中的某些内容时，政府检察官也决定了图表中不包含 什么？
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第64/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 答：是的，他们决定了图表中的内容，正确。 问：按照定义，如果不在图表中，那就是不包括，对吗？ 答：正确，他们决定放入的内容就在上面。 问：你的理解是检方团队在确保图表中反映的郭先生的声明是公平地呈现的过程中采取了谨 慎措施，对吗？ 费根森律师说：反对。 法官说：反对有效。 问：你是否理解检控团队在适当地提供背景方面采取了谨慎措施—— 费根森律师说：反对。 问：——以提供内容？ 法官说：反对有效。 问：在直接询问中，政府是否带你查看了图表中郭先生谈论中共的任何选定内容？你记得吗？ 答：他们带我——你能重述一下问题吗？ 问：当然。费根森律师带你查看了图表中许多不同的选定内容吗？ 答：是的。 问：但不是所有的内容，对吗？ 答：我认为不是所有的；但，是的，我们查看了大部分内容。 问：我的问题是，你记得他是否带你查看了郭先生谈论中共的任何内容？ 答：我不记得针对那些特定内容，但我记得审查了一些确实提到中共的内容。 问：我们来看一些图表中的内容示例。如果我们能请展示 GXZ9 的第二页。我们可以向所有 人展示。让我们看看基础文档。谢谢。你看到了这个文档，梅德拉诺先生？ 答：看到了。 问：你记得对此作证，对吗？ 答：是的，我记得。 问：这是图表中 2020 年 4 月视频的摘录，对吗？ 答：这是正确的。 问：你记得这是郭先生谈论 GTV私募的视频，对吗？
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第65/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 答：我不记得他具体讲了什么，但我记得看过这个视频。 问：够合理。正如我们之前所说的，有些陈述被遗漏在这个摘要中，对吗？ 答：有些陈述被遗漏在——有摘录的部分视频。这不是整个视频。 问：被遗漏在摘要中的，对吗？ 费根森律师说：反对。问题已问答。 法官说：问题已问答。他说这些是摘录，而不是完整的视频。 问：例如，这里有一个引文，两分十七秒的标记，在括号中。你看到了吗，梅德拉诺先生？ 答：是的，我看到了。 问：那是，“让我简要介绍一下”。你看到了吗？ 答：是的，我看到了。 问：现在，让我们看看基础文档 GXZ26-T，它在证据中。我只想请你在第一段中划线的句子 开始，“当你看到这个视频时，它不是一个公开视频。”好吗？梅德拉诺先生，你看到那个句 子被红色突出显示了吗？ 答：是的，我看到了。 问：那是出现在摘要图表中的第一句话，对吗？ 答：对的。 问：然后摘要图表跳到了两分十七秒之后，对吗？ 答：对的。 问：如果你可以看一下屏幕上显示的第二个框，开始，“我还没吃早餐”？ 答：好的。 问：我要读一下。你告诉我我是否读对了。“我还没吃早餐，我的血糖低，所以我不能太兴奋。 这个视频只是简要介绍给有意向投资 GTV的朋友和战友，让你们了解投资和投资过程中的文 件及一些基本程序。这不是投资参考。” 我读对了吗？ 答：你读对了。 问：��继续说。“首先，我想让所有有意向投资的朋友知道，世界上的任何一种投资都是有风 险的。投资 GTV 会有风险，并且会有你想象中的潜在风险。文贵强烈建议所有亲自与文贵讨 论过投资 GTV 或有意向投资 GTV 的朋友，请、请、请，在开始投资之前，谨慎进行所有投
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第66/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 资活动。这是第一。请仔细阅读所有投资文件，我们必须记住所有需要填写的投资信息，所 有提供的资金必须是合法和真实的。”你看到了吗？ 答：是的。 问：我读对了吗？ 答：你读对了。 问：所以郭先生在这份记录中说，请、请、请，仔细阅读投资文件，对吗？ 答：投资活动。 问：这是郭先生的引述，对吗？ 答：是的。你说的是请、请、请，小心投资文件。实际上是投资活动。 问：总结一下这里突出显示的所有内容，他是说请、请、请，小心。然后跳过两句话，请仔 细阅读所有文件。这公平吗？ 费根森律师说：反对。文件本身说明了一切。 法官说：文件本身说明了一切，他不是来解释这些词语的。 舒里克律师说：谢谢，法官。 问：这里突出显示的选择没有进入图表，对吗？ 答：这个选择没有在图表上。 问：请展示政府证物 C26T 的第 16 页。对不起，实际上我们从第 15 页开始，然后再移动到 第 16页。现在，梅德拉诺先生，如果我们回到我们的总结图表，我们可以简要展示给你看。 你有纸质版的—— 答：Z9？ 问：是的。 答：有的。 问：我们在总结图表的第三页。在第三页括号中的 815 标记下，你看到句子开始于“你可能住 在北京、上海或台湾”吗？ 答：看到了。 问：摘录的下一部分直到 19:45才开始，对吗？ 答：是的。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第67/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 问：如果我们回到 26T 的第 15页，再次突出显示图表中的文本部分。梅德拉诺先生，你看到 屏幕上突出显示的红色文字了吗？ 答：看到了。 问：这是总结图表中突出显示的部分吗？ 答：是的，从“你”开始。 问：然后在屏幕右侧的小字体中有一段话以“所以战友们”开头。你看到了吗？ 答：看到了。 问：我要读一下，你告诉我是否正确。“所以战友们，基于这些特定的信息，我希望这些可以 帮助战友们了解投资的基本原则。我只是想做一个简要的解释，但我要再次强调这一点。请 务必阅读发送给你的‘招股书’、‘认购书’、‘股东协议’和‘保密协议’。那些将是优先的。我说的 不是。不要把我说的话当作标准。”我读对了吗？ 答：对的。 问：再次确认，梅德拉诺先生，我们刚刚读的这一部分，以及屏幕上突出显示的部分，并未 包含在政府的总结图表中，对吗？ 答：对的。 问：我们来看另一段声明。如果我们展示 26T 的第 17页。再次，梅德拉诺先生，屏幕上突出 显示的部分以“今年我们可能会有一次或多次私募”开头。你看到了吗？ 答：看到了。 问：这段屏幕上突出显示的文字是否出现在总结图表的 19:45标记下？ 答：是的。 问：在 GXZ9中？ 答：是的。 问：现在，你看到屏幕右侧的文字以“亲爱的战友们”开头吗？ 答：看到了。 问：任何类型的投资都是有风险的？ 答：是的。 问：我要读一下，再次请你告诉我是否正确。“亲爱的战友们，任何类型的投资都是有风险的，
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第68/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 外面有很多种风险。请理性思考，认真阅读投资相关的法律文件。这是文贵想对投资朋友和 战友们做的简要投资解释。请三思。我想感谢所有投资者和朋友们，战友们。一切都开始 了。”我读对了吗？ 答：你读对了。 问：而“一切都开始了”是政府总结图表中摘录的唯一部分，对吗？ 答：对的。 问：现在让我们回到总结图表本身。看第六页—— 舒里克律师说：法官，在我们查看基础文档之前，有一个程序性问题。根据双方之前提到的 第九项协议，有协议承认政府证物 C63-T，这是 63 的翻译，这是一个视频。以及政府证物 C220-T，这是 220 的翻译，也是一个视频，所以辩方提供这些文件。 费根森律师说：政府这边反对。协议是它们作为政府证物在审判中提供，不是辩方证物。 法官说：这些已经由政府提供，对吗？ 费根森律师说：不，法官。那是认证。我们提供了这些视频的剪辑，法官。 法官说：请你们上前一步。 (边栏会议讨论，仅法官和双方律师在场) 法官说：你们要提供什么？ 舒里克律师说：各方已经同意这些是视频的正确翻译，各方也同意这些视频的真实性。政府 已经提供了多个翻译——多个视频以及各种视频的翻译。我们仅提供这些，以便与梅德拉诺 先生讨论政府在总结图表中遗漏的部分。所以我们的立场是这些可以作为政府证物被接纳。 即使我们提交这些，它们在“完整性规则”下也是可以被接纳的。 法官说：让我弄清楚。政府同意了整个翻译？ 费根森律师说：不，只有剪辑。这些是视频剪辑和翻译，我们只提供了这两个视频的剪辑和 翻译，这是双方同意的。正如我上周和法官提到的，几天前，辩方没有反对我们提交剪辑， 他们可能会根据完整性规则在稍后寻求提供其他剪辑。我们同意不反对时间性，但我们没有 实质性的反对。这是我第一次听到他们实际上试图提供整个视频和完整的翻译。这不是完整 性规则的运作方式。它是为了完成政府提供的特定声明。他们只是试图批量提供完整翻译， 这将是几个小时。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第69/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 法官说：整个还是只是部分？ 卡马拉朱律师说：只是协议上的内容，法官。 舒里克律师说：这些已经是协议中的内容。这些是基础文件。这些是翻译。 卡马拉朱律师说：协议结尾说由政府承认。 费根森律师说：是的，政府证物，由政府提供，因为政府可以提供对方的声明，无论是被告 的声明。他们不能提供被告的声明，因为他不是对方。 卡马拉朱律师说：问题是，政府是否打算在审判期间引入这些声明？ 费根森律师说：不，我们同意了，正如我和舒里克先生讨论的那样—— 卡马拉朱律师说：所以这份协议，政府证物 220，政府的立场是它不会在审判中提交 220-T 为证据？ 费根森律师说：我不认为我现在需要承诺。我猜是的。正如我和舒里克先生讨论的，他会告 诉我们他希望从整个视频中提供哪些部分。这是我们第一次听到你们要提供整个视频和翻译。 卡马拉朱律师说：我们提供翻译。 费根森律师说：整个视频的翻译。正是这样。 法官说：你们是否还没决定是否要提供完整翻译？ 费根森律师说：我们今天不打算提供。我们认为他们会和我们讨论他们希望提供更多完整翻 译的部分。 法官说：你们谈过这件事，你们的理解是他们会通知你们。 舒里克律师说：这不是我们的理解，法官。我不喜欢这样。如果这是你的立场，这对我们来 说肯定不明确。政府今天上午已经和梅德拉诺先生一起提供了这些记录的一部分。我们只是 想提供其他部分。 费根森律师说：这不是完整性规则的运作方式。 法官说：他们还没有审查你们计划提供的内容，而你们知道他们计划提供的内容。 舒里克律师说：法官，大家都知道里面的内容，因为所有人都已经审查过，并且有协议它们 是可接受的。我不认为说他们没有审查是公平的。 法官说：这些是冗长的文件。是否需要在之前审查？ 费根森律师说：正确，法官。我们需要知道，根据完整性规则，这样做是否合适。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第70/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 法官说：只有这样，他们才能考虑你所说的应该完整的叙述。 费根森律师说：这正是我们同意的，法官。如果他们以后根据完整性规则寻求提供部分内容， 我们不会反对时间性或其他类似的事情，但我们可能会有实质性反对，认为它不适合完整性 规则。如果他们想在我们讨论之后再这样做，那也没问题。 舒里克律师说：在我们讨论是否会反对我们寻求引入的其他部分之后，我们是否会重新传唤 这个证人来补充我们提供的协议？ 法官说：你能不能跳到你的交叉询问中的另一个部分，不涉及这个问题，然后在 2:45 你们两 个人讨论一下？ 舒里克律师说：请法庭给我两分钟时间检查一下我的大纲，确保我的内容没有受到影响。 法官说：去查看你的大纲然后回来。 舒里克律师说：谢谢，法官。我还有一个计划要涵盖的视频，已经在证据中，所以我可以和 证人一起涵盖那个视频，然后我们可能不得不保留重新传唤梅德拉诺先生的权利，解决完整 性问题之后。 法官说：所以他可以明天回来。他不需要去其他地方，对吧。好的。 费根森律师说：是的。 法官说：好的，非常好。 (回到公开法庭上) 舒里克律师提问：请展示政府证物 Z11。梅德拉诺先生，这个总结图表涵盖了一个政府证物。 对吗？ 答：对的。 问：GXW1005？ 答：对的。 问：现在，图表没有显示这个视频中的所有陈述，对吗？ 答：对的。 问：而且这个视频实际上相当长，对吗？ 答：对的。 问：实际上超过两个小时长，对吗？
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第71/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 答：我不完全确定整个时长。 问：但你知道它相当长？ 答：对的。 问：政府在选定内容栏中只摘录了两句话，对吗？ 答：在 V1 上，是的。 问：然后在下面还有一句话，对吗？ 答：我相信是正确的，但我看不到。 问：你看到了吗？ 答：我看到了。 问：所以我们从这个长达两小时的视频中只摘录了两句话，对吗？ 法官说：你不能作证。他没有作证说是两小时长。 问：所以我们从这个相当长的视频中只摘录了两句话，对吗？ 答：对的。 问：这里引用的陈述不是郭先生说的，对吗？ 答：视频中似乎不是郭先生。 问：这些是史蒂夫·班农先生的陈述，对吗？你认得他吗？ 答：对的。 问：这个图表没有反映这个视频与一个非营利组织有关，对吗？ 答：我只确认图表中的陈述的有效性。我不确定视频中的其他内容。 问：我们来看一些没有进入政府图表的摘录。请展示 GXW1005 的 20分 5秒标记。 （播放媒体） 问：梅德拉诺先生，你在屏幕左上角看到一个水印吗？ 答：看到了。 问：上面写了什么？ 答：郭媒体。 问：你知道郭媒体是什么吗？ 答：我不知道。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第72/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 问：郭先生在视频中是否攻击中共是一个极权主义政权？ 费根森律师说：反对。 法官说：反对有效。他不能评论说话者的内容。他只能确认所使用的词语。 舒里克律师说：谢谢，法官。 问：GXZ11图表中没有包含我们刚刚观看的视频的任何部分，对吗？ 费根森律师说：已经问过并回答过。 法官说：反对有效。 问：请展示相同的文件 GSW1005 的 22分 51秒标记。 （播放媒体） 问：梅德拉诺先生，GXZ11图表没有显示向陪审团展示的声明，对吗？ 费根森律师说：反对。 法官说：反对有效。 问：它没有显示关于同一主题的任何其他声明，对吗？ 费根森律师说：已经问过并回答过。 法官说：如果你能回答这个问题，可以回答。 答：我只审查了政府证物中显示的内容，所以我不确定还可能有其他内容。 问：你可以看到这个图表只包含了两句话，没有关于中共的其他声明，对吗？这是我的问题。 答：正确，这个图表上是我审查过的内容。 问：关于这个图表，政府摘录了一段显示班农先生说郭先生要建立一个 1 亿美元的基金，称 为法治基金，对吗？ 答：是的。 问：然后在下一页有一句话说，这是他的钱？ 答：在下一页，是的。 问：现在， 我只想提请你们注意这两份声明上的时间戳。 答：是的。 问：第一个的结束时间是一小时 16分 31秒，对吗？ 答：正确。
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第73/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 问：下一句开始于一小时 23分 34秒，对吗？ 答：正确。 问：所以这两句话在视频中实际上相隔七分六秒，对吗？ 答：根据时间戳，是的。 问：你同意这个图表让读者认为这两句话是连接在一起的吗？ 费根森律师说：反对。 法官说：反对有效。这是陪审团决定的。 问：让我们从 1:20:28 开始播放相同的视频。播放前，梅德拉诺先生，请注意，如果我们从 1:20:28 开始播放，那大约是在图表中“这是他的钱”这句话前的三分钟，对吗？ 答：是的。我手头上没有图表。 问：你没有纸质版的 GXZ11吗？ 答：没有。 问：你可以在这里看到。我们在屏幕上显示了它。所以它在 1:23:34 开始？ 答：是的。 问：我们将从 1:20:28 开始视频。你同意这是在图表中的陈述前大约三分钟，对吗？ 答：正确。 （播放媒体） 法官说：现在是 2:45，所以我们需要停下。陪审团成员们，我们现在要休息了，明天你们将 返回。记住你们不能互相讨论案件，也不能与任何人讨论案件。不要允许任何人在你们面前 讨论案件。记住，不要研究任何与此案有关的事情，不要听取任何关于此案的媒体报道或任 何意见。 书记官：陪审团退庭。 （陪审团不在场） 法官说：你们可以坐下。梅德拉诺先生，明天上午 9:29 你将返回法庭，重新坐在证人席上。 记住不要讨论你的证词。你可以把所有东西留在这里。 （证人暂时离席） 法官说：我希望双方能够解决我们边栏会议讨论，仅法官和双方律师在场的问题。如果你们
【中文翻译 仅供参考】 O5VVGUO1 2024-6-3 庭审记录 第74/74⻚ SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 尽力后仍然无法解决，我们可以明天早上九点讨论。 费根森律师说：好的，法官。 芬克律师说：法官，我们能不能再问一个问题。政府想知道我们是否可以推迟到明天星期二 提交对您关于专家动议决定的重新考虑请求的回应。原定今天提交。 法官说：好的，可以。 芬克律师说：谢谢您，法官。 法官说：好的。明天上午九点见。谢谢。 （休庭至 2024 年 6 月 4 日上午 9点）
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